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Ken Smith
06-01-2011, 03:17 AM
Over the years I have seen several Basses by this maker. He was trained by his father Augustin Claudot (1776-1843) who was quite a famous maker as well. I have seen I think only flatback basses by P.Claudot in both Gamba and Violin model.

In the past few years I came across a two Claudot's that were for sale and made offers on them but they sold for a bit more than I was willing to pay, mainly because I needed some room for repairs and modifications. One was a Violin model with a long string length and a replaced Scroll and the other a Gamba in fair condition overall but had potential.

Last year while in the process of selling one my other basses, a P.Claudot bass was offered as a possible partial trade. After seeing the pictures of the bass, I was quite impressed with its condition. About 6 months ago when the deal was completed the Claudot was dropped off for me at Arnold's shop. Each time I visited there with basses going back and forth, I didn't have room in the car for the Claudot so I just left there on display in the rack.

Last week I was up at Arnold's shop and finally had room to bring her home. Earlier this evening I put the bass up on my bench and adjusted the C-Extension which is a model I have never seen before. I am not 100% sure on the make of the extension so until I confirm who made it, I wont mention any names. I also adjusted the Nut and Bridge slots to tweak the bass a bit to my personal taste.

The top wood is mixed fine to medium grained spruce and slightly wavy. The back and ribs are 'tight' strong washboard 'spaghetti' flamed maple. This bass seems quite old and has not had nearly as many repairs in its life as other basses its age. The single center brace, upper and lower blocks, the 4 corner blocks and internal linings all look original to the bass. All parts, top, back, ribs and scroll are original as well with a later flamed maple neck graft. This was a 3-string bass at birth and later converted to 4-string. Three of the gears match and the forth slightly different. All 4 worm brackets look the same and the worm handles look like they have been modified or repaired at one point. The gear worms all match so it was possibly converted to 4-string quite early on. I am estimating this bass to be c.1840-1850, somewhere in the first half of his work period.

The bass is stamped 'Paul Claudot' on the single center brace which is an interesting piece of wood in itself as well as how it's shaped.

As usual, I have to wait till my son Mike can take pics and put up a new page on the website. I might try taking some pics before then to post up here on the Forum like I did earlier with the Tarr bass.

I am quite impressed with the sound of this bass. It is currently strung with Original Flexocors G-A and a solo Spirocore Extension E/C (actually F#/D but tuned Orchestra pitch). The G and D are fine but the A feels heavy to me and always does. The Spiro/Solo E/C is beautiful.

I have a few gigs within the next month or so and I plan on taking this bass out for a personal road test. ;)

Eric Swanson
06-01-2011, 07:05 AM
It sounds lovely. I look forward to seeing the photos and measurements.

I would enjoy seeing photos of the back brace, too...

Ken Smith
06-01-2011, 10:47 AM
It sounds lovely. I look forward to seeing the photos and measurements.

I would enjoy seeing photos of the back brace, too...

Measurements;
Top length to tip: 45 1/4"
Back length over button: 46"
Upper Bout width: 21 1/2"
Middle Bout width: 15"
Lower Bout width: 26 1/2"
Rib depth at bottom block: 7 3/4"
Rib taper at upper bout to Neck: 7 1/2" - 5 1/2" at Neck
Vibrating String Length: 41 3/4" (D-Neck Heel)

Did I miss anything Eric?

Eric Swanson
06-01-2011, 11:52 AM
I would be surprised if you did.

All you have done, though, is whet my appetite for more...

:o

Ken Smith
06-02-2011, 08:19 AM
I would be surprised if you did.

All you have done, though, is whet my appetite for more...

:o

Just don't drool on the bass..:eek: The varnish is all original still..;)

Eric Swanson
06-20-2011, 07:44 AM
Any pics, yet?

Ken Smith
06-20-2011, 09:12 AM
Any pics, yet?

We started taking pics last week and then, the camera broke. My son made a call and his gf showed up with her camera. He didn't know how to work the camera so she took the pics of the Claudot, Tarr and two bows, a Lipkins and a Fuchs. When my son has time he will get the pages up and I will fill in the info and specs and then, it will get uploaded on to the 'site.

Last night after getting home from a Father's day dinner as a local Italian restaurant he hands me a small box as a gift. It was a new Camera. The old one that broke was a high grade 4.0 that I bought about 10 years ago. That was just after the 486 PC was replaced by the newer Pentium, or thereabouts.. lol

So, if the pics she took are good, they will stay. If not, when time allows, my Son Mike will replace them with new pics from the new camera he just bought me.

Eric Swanson
07-02-2011, 08:24 AM
How do you like the new camera?

Ken Smith
07-02-2011, 10:01 AM
How do you like the new camera?

Haven't used it yet. The video card (?) just came in and am waiting for my son Mike to get it set-up n show me how to work it. Not sure I have all the right cables for downloading either. Also, he bought a tri-pod which will help cut down on blurry shots.

Drake Chan
07-02-2011, 01:02 PM
Haven't used it yet. The video card (?) just came in and am waiting for my son Mike to get it set-up n show me how to work it. Not sure I have all the right cables for downloading either. Also, he bought a tri-pod which will help cut down on blurry shots.

I would also reduce the use of flash on your pictures - it produces that annoying glare that prevents us from seeing your basses' true patina. I like your older pictures because they didn't use flash.

Ken Smith
07-02-2011, 01:56 PM
I would also reduce the use of flash on your pictures - it produces that annoying glare that prevents us from seeing your basses' true patina. I like your older pictures because they didn't use flash.

I will pass this along to Mike. We don't always use flash but some pictures are taken at night without any sunlight coming thru the window across the room. Without the flash, the pics are too dark. We do them both ways, with and without in that case.

Also, those that are interested in buying basses like this come by and play them. Our product is not an on-line picture book so this is the first complaint I have heard on the flash. Some of the basses with round-backs or shiny varnish are hard to capture without glare in spots, even without the flash.

The pictures are just basic examples of what they look like. You really have to play them to get the full value of the bass. I would say pics, 2%, playing, 98%..;)

Eric Swanson
07-03-2011, 09:27 PM
Having visited Ken's shop, played, and listened to Ken play, several of his basses I would say that the photos capture more like .001% of his collection's magic...

Definitely worth a trip.

It is sort of the opposite of some things, where the marketing "buzz" and the photos are the best part...

Ken Smith
07-04-2011, 08:50 AM
Having visited Ken's shop, played, and listened to Ken play, several of his basses, I would say that the photos capture more like .001% of his collection's magic...

Definitely worth a trip.

It is sort of the opposite of some things, where the marketing "buzz" and the photos are the best part...

Mike and I took new pics yesterday with the new camera. We tried both flash and not flash, midday with the sun thru the back window and against the white wall instead of the mahogany door that we have used for the past several years. I prefer the door and Mike prefers the wall. The Camera does focus and mix color with the wall but I feel I can tell the contrast better by looking at the door color in the shot. Still, we used a plain white wall in the background.

Maybe in a day or so we will get the page up and published. We still have to do the Scroll thumbnail on the price tier page. It will be in the upper range page of the basses opposite the William Tarr Bass which we shot yesterday as well. I still have some page work to do on the Tarr so we will load them both together.

So, pics are coming so be patient.

Ken Smith
07-04-2011, 10:08 AM
Here's the Link to the new Claudot page;
http://www.kensmithbasses.com/doublebasses/claudot/

Eric Swanson
07-05-2011, 07:31 AM
That is just lovely. I like the look of the back angle; it looks as if it would help getting into the upper register.

It really is in amazingly fine condition. Thank you very much for sharing these photos! What a beautiful bass...

Pino Cazzaniga
07-05-2011, 08:28 PM
Ken,
perhaps he made some Vuillaume-like instruments too?
This one has the Claudot stamp on the back, inside.
It is big, I didn't take body measurements, but the string length is a bit less than cm 112, despite the short neck graft (so short that I had to make an opposite extended nut)
It was a three stringer

Pino Cazzaniga
07-05-2011, 08:32 PM
more pics...

Ken Smith
07-05-2011, 09:58 PM
I have seen this model but only in flatback that I can recall. I do not doub't that he made Round backs as most French makers made both round and flat backs with Gamba and Violin shapes with either back. I was just stating that I can't recall any that had round backs.

Most of the Claudot's I have seen were long string lengths as well in the 109-110cm mensur range (+/- 43").

Ken Smith
09-06-2011, 07:21 PM
Ok, we just published the Page and lightened up the pics a bit. Enjoy..

http://www.kensmithbasses.com/doublebasses/high.html

http://www.kensmithbasses.com/doublebasses/claudot/

Eric Swanson
09-09-2011, 09:09 AM
Ok, we just published the Page and lightened up the pics a bit. Enjoy..

http://www.kensmithbasses.com/doublebasses/high.html

http://www.kensmithbasses.com/doublebasses/claudot/

I gotta admit, I look at this bass' photos as some sort of pick-me-up.

When everything else feels sketchy, this bass' beauty shines through.

I like what you have done with the photos...very much.