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Ray Evans
05-30-2007, 08:21 PM
Hi. I'm in the process of making a trade for this Ken Smith Burner 4 String. I've never owned a Smith, but am very exited to get my first. I'm not sure on alot of the details of this bass and neither is the owner. Could anyone give me an estimated value just by looking at the pictures i have listed?

Ray

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/jamontap/100_1758.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/jamontap/100_1757.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/jamontap/100_1756.jpg

Ken Smith
05-30-2007, 08:29 PM
That Model was discontinued at least 10 years ago if not more as far as the white color goes on the Standard model which it is. The List price ranged from about $1200 - $1500 when that model was made between 1989 - 1995 or so. Tell me the serial # and I will tell you the year!

Read this as well; http://www.kensmithbasses.com/models/bsrb/bsrb.html

Burner Basses sold from 20% to 40% off list depending on where and when you bought the Bass and the dealer and his needs as well. Foreign sales could range higher.

Read the reviews as well here; http://www.kensmithbasses.com/models/bsrb/testimonials/testimonial4.html

Ray Evans
05-30-2007, 08:36 PM
Wow. That was fast. Thanks Ken. I will let you know the serial # as soon as I recieve the bass.

Ray Evans
06-08-2007, 01:30 PM
Ken, The Serial # is 904034.

Tim Bishop
06-08-2007, 03:56 PM
Hi. I'm in the process of making a trade for this Ken Smith Burner 4 String. I've never owned a Smith, but am very exited to get my first. I'm not sure on alot of the details of this bass and neither is the owner. Could anyone give me an estimated value just by looking at the pictures i have listed?

Ray

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/jamontap/100_1758.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/jamontap/100_1757.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/jamontap/100_1756.jpg

Ken, The Serial # is 904034.

Ray, looks like a nice one. A 1990 Burner-4 in great condition could yield between $600. and $700. on the market (a great buy for the buyer as these are really nice basses for the $'s). ;)

Ray Evans
06-09-2007, 07:40 AM
Thanks Tim!

Ronson Hall
06-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Thanks Tim!

Hey Ray! Just wanted to jion in to say congrats on your first Ken Smith! I just received my first from Ken a few months ago, and I can say I'm a very happy camper.

Have a great time playing your Burner, man! :cool:

Ray Evans
06-14-2007, 11:55 AM
thanks ronson.

Santiago Bideberripe
09-18-2007, 08:59 PM
That Model was discontinued at least 10 years ago if not more as far as the white color goes on the Standard model which it is. The List price ranged from about $1200 - $1500 when that model was made between 1989 - 1995 or so. Tell me the serial # and I will tell you the year!

Read this as well; http://www.kensmithbasses.com/models/bsrb/bsrb.html

Burner Basses sold from 20% to 40% off list depending on where and when you bought the Bass and the dealer and his needs as well. Foreign sales could range higher.

Read the reviews as well here; http://www.kensmithbasses.com/models/bsrb/testimonials/testimonial4.html


hello ken, I was looking here in Argentine a KSB. is a burner V, maple neck whit two walnut stripes, mahogany? center body whit maple top and back. Two jazz bass pups. I dont know the year of construction and the place of construction (usa or japan) the serial number is 941127AM5. thanks a lot ken!!

Ken Smith
09-18-2007, 09:27 PM
( 4, 5 & 6 String Basses made in Japan & USA combined) (http://www.kensmithbasses.com/models/bsrb/bsrb.html)

That serial # is the Artist model which was the top Burner model. It was handmade but carved and finished in Japan. We cut the body tops here and shipped them over. We also supplied Fingerboard blanks for most of the Burners as well as Figured maple and Walnut for the Custom models. Ash was usually bought there for the Basses but we did ship them some. After 1992, all Circuits were installed here in the shop.

I hope this helps.

Santiago Bideberripe
09-19-2007, 08:59 AM
( 4, 5 & 6 String Basses made in Japan & USA combined) (http://www.kensmithbasses.com/models/bsrb/bsrb.html)

That serial # is the Artist model which was the top Burner model. It was handmade but carved and finished in Japan. We cut the body tops here and shipped them over. We also supplied Fingerboard blanks for most of the Burners as well as Figured maple and Walnut for the Custom models. Ash was usually bought there for the Basses but we did ship them some. After 1992, all Circuits were installed here in the shop.

I hope this helps.

thanks a lot ken, but what is the year of construction of the bass ?? are diferent the circuits after/before 1992?? can you tell me what is the price of the bass today??? do you hace a link of the artist model????thanks again ken...;)

Ken Smith
09-19-2007, 09:07 AM
thanks a lot ken, but what is the year of construction of the bass ?? are diferent the circuits after/before 1992?? can you tell me what is the price of the bass today??? do you hace a link of the artist model????thanks again ken...;)

It is a 1994, '94' in the beginning of the number plus, inside the back plate should be the #, date and my signature hand written on the foil.

The circuits after 1992 are similar in function but higher quality made in USA. There are no pics of the Artist model but it is the same as the Custom except it has 5-pc laminated body wings. I don't know the prices today as we don't make them and we don't judge the values of used Basses. They were several hundred dollars more than the Custom when they were being sold, that's all I can remember.

Santiago Bideberripe
09-19-2007, 09:41 AM
It is a 1994, '94' in the beginning of the number plus, inside the back plate should be the #, date and my signature hand written on the foil.

The circuits after 1992 are similar in function but higher quality made in USA. There are no pics of the Artist model but it is the same as the Custom except it has 5-pc laminated body wings. I don't know the prices today as we don't make them and we don't judge the values of used Basses. They were several hundred dollars more than the Custom when they were being sold, that's all I can remember.

wow, what fast... first to all, thanks for your time ken, I apreciate to much...
las cuestion..how I make (o find) a finger ramp to put beteween the pickups??thanks again ken...I hope in the near future can visit Usa (and you amazing shop of course) sory for my bad english...

Ken Smith
09-19-2007, 11:40 AM
wow, what fast... first to all, thanks for your time ken, I apreciate to much...
las cuestion..how I make (o find) a finger ramp to put beteween the pickups??thanks again ken...I hope in the near future can visit Usa (and you amazing shop of course) sory for my bad english...

Sorry, I don't make those.

Santiago Bideberripe
09-20-2007, 10:41 AM
Sorry, I don't make those.


the circuit of the burner is noisy. how much cost one circuit for the burner V?? thanks!!

Ken Smith
09-20-2007, 01:19 PM
the circuit of the burner is noisy. how much cost one circuit for the burner V?? thanks!!

The USA Circuit that goes in the Burner with 4 knobs (Bass and Treble) is $140. plus shipping. We ship only by UPS so figure that in your cost as well.

Santiago Bideberripe
10-06-2007, 09:49 AM
The USA Circuit that goes in the Burner with 4 knobs (Bass and Treble) is $140. plus shipping. We ship only by UPS so figure that in your cost as well.


ok, thanks again. that usa circuit is the only that can fit on the bass?

Santiago Bideberripe
10-06-2007, 09:50 AM
The USA Circuit that goes in the Burner with 4 knobs (Bass and Treble) is $140. plus shipping. We ship only by UPS so figure that in your cost as well.


ok, thanks again. that usa circuit is the only smith pre who that can fit on the bass?

Ken Smith
10-06-2007, 10:21 AM
ok, thanks again. that usa circuit is the only smith pre who that can fit on the bass?

Well, the body is drilled for 4 knobs so that is the circuit that fits. The 5th knob for the mid control might fit with some extra work but only as a 9v unit. Drilling into a poly' or lacquer finish is not easy but I have done a few. Hard finishes are prone to chipping if not done carefully when drilling additional holes. Plus, with a tight cavity like the Burner, there is letting room for error. It must fit just right.

Ryan Reed
10-29-2007, 05:02 PM
First of all, i just wanted to say thanks Ken for making my burner. I've had it since 98 and most people drool when they pick it up. I am a little upset now because every other bass i play just isn't as fun. I also wanted to know if you could give me a little history of my bass if you happen to know. Its painted black and the sn is 95 1339.
I'm currently building an accoustic bass and used the neck and other dimensions of the burner for this one.
Thanks again

Chuck Ruby
11-06-2007, 10:53 PM
Still have my 1990 Burner 5 string Artist.

Santiago Bideberripe
05-03-2008, 02:54 PM
The USA Circuit that goes in the Burner with 4 knobs (Bass and Treble) is $140. plus shipping. We ship only by UPS so figure that in your cost as well.


thanks for the info... now I was looking buy a burner 5 strings (ash body, maple neck). the problem is that it came whit the smith preamp but the pups was changed whit a set of bartolini....
I think that I dont get the "smith sound"...isnt? still are available the pickups of the burner series to buy a set of those? thans ken...

Ken Smith
05-03-2008, 03:03 PM
thanks for the info... now I was looking buy a burner 5 strings (ash body, maple neck). the problem is that it came whit the smith preamp but the pups was changed whit a set of bartolini....
I think that I dont get the "smith sound"...isnt? still are available the pickups of the burner series to buy a set of those? thans ken...

If we still have some Burner jazz sets in stock, we can sell them. Other wise it will have to be 2 bridge Position Flat-top Js that we use now. They should fit fairly close.

Michael McNally
09-23-2009, 10:44 AM
Let us know if you'll be making more of these. :)

Ken Smith
09-23-2009, 03:25 PM
Let us know if you'll be making more of these. :)

The Burner project has been discontinued for 10 years now. I have no intention of making any parts for the Burner at this time.

joelalvesjr
09-26-2009, 09:03 AM
Mine in action: red, std, 1992. Ever ready for battle!!;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvaJFZWezf8&feature=related

Ken Smith
09-26-2009, 09:59 PM
The Burner project has been discontinued for 10 years now. I have no intention of making any parts for the Burner at this time.

The 9v Circuits with 4 knobs are still abailable for replacement or repair. The Tuners and Straploks are available as well but the newer tuner handles are shaped slightly different.

Jens Westerinen
10-02-2009, 03:38 AM
The USA Circuit that goes in the Burner with 4 knobs (Bass and Treble) is $140. plus shipping. We ship only by UPS so figure that in your cost as well.

I'm hoping to own a Burner Artist soon too.
The circuit and pu's has been changed to Bartolini though.
Would a new 4-knob circuit work well with the Bartolini pu's and give me somewhere close the nice Smith-sound or would I have to get the right pu's too for that?

And please if you could give me info. about how much it would be for you getting a circuit shipped over here.

Regards

Tim Bishop
11-03-2009, 06:45 PM
Here's more info on the new Burner model being made in Japan:

http://www.smithbassforums.com/showthread.php?p=15721#post15721

Ken Smith
11-03-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm hoping to own a Burner Artist soon too.
The circuit and pu's has been changed to Bartolini though.
Would a new 4-knob circuit work well with the Bartolini pu's and give me somewhere close the nice Smith-sound or would I have to get the right pu's too for that?

And please if you could give me info. about how much it would be for you getting a circuit shipped over here.

Regards

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