Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 3246)

Fender Jazz, really, might I ask what year and if its American or Mexican produced? It would over whelmingly seem as though the majority of the Bassist on this thread prefer the Aguilar and Epifani products. Indeed that makes a powerful statement, one would assume that their products are the ones (if your wallet can afford it) to acquire.
Al :cool:

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 3246)

Fender Jazz, really, might I ask what year and if its American or Mexican produced? It would over whelmingly seem as though the majority of the Bassist on this thread prefer the Aguilar and Epifani products. Indeed that makes a powerful statement, one would assume that their products are the ones (if your wallet can afford it) to acquire.
Al :cool:

Originally Posted by Bill Doss (Post 3253)

Al,

My Jazz is a Mexican made with the usual upgrades (leo quan bridge, hipshot exteneder tuner. and new pick ups). It sounded better to me than the others and it was a lot cheaper than a US made even with the upgrades.

As to the Aguilar and Epifani comment, I would agree with Tim in saying that I do not see that many people using these brands in the forum. I see most players using Eden and power and preamp combinations than Aguilar or Epifani. As you said earlier, it is what sounds good to you that matters.

The Aguilar head works for me because it is a dual channel head with an overdrive channel that works very well for rock music (kind of a pushed Ampeg SVT sound)- and a very clean channel for everything else. I could probably do better with two preamp set ups - one dirt one clean- but that would be very heavy and inpractical. Also the Aguilar AG 500 is pretty loud (500 watts) and light (18LBS). So it is very practical in a lot of ways.

BD

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 3250)

"Overwhelming majority of the Bassist on this thread"? I'm counting a couple that use these cabs out of about 225 members of this Forum overall (maybe 1.5% of the total). Thats like comparing Apple to Microsoft. I would recommend getting a few more endorsements before making that call. ;)

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 3256)

Ouch, give a brother some slack, ok,ok I admit it I exaggerated the majority a bit. :o

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 3280)

I'm sure some of you travel around as much as I do, and when I'm not able to get to my favorite Pro Shop in New Jersey( New Jersey Bass & Guitar Center) located in Edison NJ, I'd like to have a heads up on the best shops in your demographic area. So if you dont mind hit me off with your favorite spot to pick up the real deal in gear. Thanks
Al :cool:

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 3280)

I'm sure some of you travel around as much as I do, and when I'm not able to get to my favorite Pro Shop in New Jersey( New Jersey Bass & Guitar Center) located in Edison NJ, I'd like to have a heads up on the best shops in your demographic area. So if you dont mind hit me off with your favorite spot to pick up the real deal in gear. Thanks
Al :cool:

Originally Posted by Ronson Hall (Post 3285)

Actually, I've had some great friends for years who run a music store called Century Music Systems here in San Antonio. They are good folks (Dale and Tommy & the gang), and they have access to anything you want, at a great price. The store has a great personal, family feel. If they don't have it (which they usually do), they'll get it quickly!

Currently, Al, if you want to get into some really serious gear specifically for the bass player, it's pretty convenient to drive 60 miles to Austin and vivst the Bass Emporium, and other great stores there.

After Ken talked about the advantages of George L instrument cables a few days ago (got one with my new Ken Smith, thank you!), I walked into Century Music to rent a keyboard for our Church Anniversary, and they were doing George L's in a big way. They make them to order right there on the spot. by the way, the George L tips are noticabally "better fitting" than the normal instrument cable tip! :cool:

Incidentally, Ken also sent me Al "The Burner" Turner's newest CD with my package. If you don't have it, you gotta hear it. Get it from Ken, and play it in your car. Al's bass solos are fantastic, and I've been practicing them on my new baby! :D

Originally Posted by Sandberg (Post 3612)

I use Trace Elliot Top, 1048 cabinet and a 15 inch cabinet. Lots of power to really extend the low B string...

love them

Originally Posted by Tamás Száva (Post 3629)

I use an EBS HD 350 head and an EBS 4x10 evolution pro line cabinet.
I love them. Really powerful with plenty of headroom. Con: cabinet is quite heavy (41 kg), but that's the price of great power handling capacity and conventional non-neodymium construction.

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 3634)

I played through this set-up (with the addition of the 2x10 cab) a couple of years ago. Great bass rig! ;)

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 3649)

Tim, being that you have played through many different set-ups what would you consider your dream rig? and what are you currently playing through now?

Originally Posted by Martin Duarte (Post 4189)

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 1042)

Amp's/Cab's used:

QSC PLX 3602 w/Alembic F2B Pre-amp

Eden Amp's: WT800, WT550, WT400
Eden Cab's: 210XST, 410XLT, and 115XLT

Ampeg Amp: SVT III Pro
Ampeg Cag: 610HLF

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 1526)

Well, when it comes to bass, you can NEVER have enough headroom!

At church I currently use my Eden WT-550 as a DI (no cab; don't need it; will explain later). IMO, this gives the Sound-man all he needs for bass (post EQ) and with us being on Avioms, keeps the stage volume controlled.

We are all on Avioms and in-ears. Our Worship Leader, Drummer, and myself went to an audiologist and had ear molds made for custom fitted in-ears made by Ultimate Ears. Everyone else uses Shure E5's.

I never thought I would be able to break away from my on-stage rig, however, with a little work, I have grown to adapt to the in-ears and the convenience you get with Avioms: I love mixing what I want to hear in my ear and not having to fight to get the attention of the Sound-man to attend to my needs. More importantly, I love not having to carry all that weight with the "big rig".

Now don't get me wrong, where the convenience of Avioms, great sound system, a Sound-man with an ear, etc. are not available, my newest favorite rig is my QCS PLX3602 w/Alembic F2-B Pre-amp and whatever Eden Cabs I choose for the room.

The PLX3602 bridged into 4OHMS has an output of 3600W. While I may never use all that power, I will have all the headroom I will need and oh my, by far my favorite rig set-up!!! I've yet to hear anything that sounds this great! I still love my Eden and Amped rigs, however, can't touch this!

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 4193)

Martin, review and see posts #23 and #29 (among others of mine) of this thread. ;)

Originally Posted by Martin Duarte (Post 4189)

Originally Posted by Bill Doss (Post 5412)

Hey guys,

So, I got a new rig and wanted to share my opinions with my fellow Smith fiends.

After being a long time Aguilar Ag500 and DB410 cab user and after battling the mids on that rig for way too long. I ended up buying a Schroeder 410R cabinet and pairing it with a Demeter VTBP201S preamp and a QSC PLX 3102. This thing is devastating! Seriously... it put to shame an Ampeg 8x10 in the live show punch and loudness department.

I have nothing but great things to say about Schroeder cabs. The 410R handles 1,600 watts RMS. I emailed Jorg Schroeder, the owner of teh company, and he recomended a power amp with at least 2,000 watts. He told me that he uses the QSC plx series and suggested that I give them a go. I did and was very impressed. I matched the amp/cab with the Demeter preamp and have a great sounding rig with up to 3,000watts of headroom.

I play both progressive heavy rock and clean r&b styles. This combination is perfect with my Smith and even with my Lakland Skyline 55-01.

Now, the cabinet is not as refined as lets say and accugroove when playing solo, but once you put it in a band context it really stands out. It cuts trough and has great, fat low end and punch.

Two thumbs up !!!!!:D

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 5413)

I'm with ya on this one Bill! Two thumbs and two toes up!!!! Sounds like you have a great rig.

While I have not used Schroeder Cabs.........and as I have stated in this thread; my newest favorite rig is my QSC PLX3602 w/Alembic F2-B Pre-amp and whatever Eden Cabs I choose for the room.

"Devastating"?....to say the least!........

My PLX3602 bridged into 4ohms has an output of 3600W. While I may never use all that power, I will have all the headroom I will ever need and oh my, by far my favorite rig set-up!!! I've yet to hear anything that sounds this great! I still love my Eden and Amped rigs, however, can't touch this! ;) :) :D

Originally Posted by Rainer Bastian (Post 5760)

My gear:

Rack 1:
Aguilar DB680 => Powersoft DIGAM D3002 (Hi Egbert ...:-)

Rack 2:
Glockenklang Heart-Rock

Rack 3:
Aguilar DB750

Monitor:
SWR ST-800

Cabinets:
Various combinations of my Epifani cabs: 1 410UL, 1 212UL, 2 210UL

Effects:
dbx160A Compressor
SWR Mr Tone Controls param EQ

All of the 3 Racks provide different sound details through the Epi cabs. Personally I prefer most the Rack 1 combi with the 212UL and the 210UL on top, works perfect for both fretted and fretless. Quick and punchy, yet organic and with a rich midrange which I like so much on my Smiths...:-)... (Off-Topic: I really like also pre-Gibson Tobias' and old Fenders - they sound better through the other amp heads...)

Actually I have some serious reliability problems with both the DB680 and the Powersoft amp. Especially the Powersoft amp has been in the repair service 3 times and for more than 4 months...

The one thing I hate most is un-reliable equipment ...

Originally Posted by Dennis Michaels (Post 5082)

I use Eden period. My rig consist of the following mixxed and matched depending on the situation.
WT550
WT400
WT1000 (with WT400 as the preamp)
210XST 4 ohm
dual 212XLT 4 ohm
112XLT


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Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 5882)

Dennis I had the opportunity to play through a WT 390 and as you know there were only three of these cabinets made, it was signed by David Eden. A good friend of mine blew his Fender Bass man amp and asked me to assist him in obtaining a new amp. We went to the Pro-shop I buy from and he and I played his bass a 2005 Mexican Fender 5 through different heads and combos. But ultimately he was set on the David Eden WT 390 combo. I must admit it sounded awesome, better than my Ampeg rig actually. So if and when I decide to change my rig I believe I to will be joining the Eden clan.

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 5883)

Hey Al,

I've never heard of a WT-390 :confused: ....at any rate....

I've played through and own Edens 400, 550, and 800. The 400 just can't cut it (too weak). The 800 is a great amp also, however, IMO the Eden WT-550 (if nothing else, value-wise) is THE best sounding amp head I have played of the 3 Edens I have. ;)

What you will really need to do now is take your Smith, locate a WT-550 and run it through a 210XST and 212 XLT Cab together. Or, if they have a 410XLT, that'l work too. You think that MIM Fender sounded good? LOL! I can promise you, your Ampeg rig will become a distant memory. ;)

If you are looking for a combo amp......I would recommend the Eden Metro. ;)

Now, if you want to take it to another level?....Well, as you already know, I have shared what I use as my current rig through my other posts, so, I won't bore you with those details again. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 5914)

First of all Tim you never bore me with info on your awesome collection of thunder producers, secondly I will take you up on your dubious suggestions and run my Smith's both my 5 and 6 string through the set-up you recommended. I'll hit ya back with the feed back just as soon as I return from my business trip to good ole St Louis.
until then peace!! :D