Ooooooohhh Weeeeeeeeee
 

My goodness looks like I brought the big dogs out of the closet, you boys got good insurance I hope. :eek: My God that's alot of pasta!!!

Good Googla Moogla, Tim! You are indeed equipped, cabinet-wise, for any situation! Blessed you are, my friend.

Here's my Eden "Dream List":

• WT550
• a WTX 260 for the light, quick traveling I do
• a 212 cab
• two of the D210XST
• one 410XLT
• one of the 112 cabs

I think that would keep me happy for a few years! :cool:

By the way, Bob & Brother Al, your rigs are looking pretty powerful!

I need more power.. My head is only 700Wrms, which drives 350Wrms to each cab. The 810 will handle 800Wprogram, and the 215 will handle 1kWprogram.. So both are underpowered.. I'm gonna be looking into getting a power amp in the 1.5KW arena at some point in the future. That will come just before I order my Smith BSR5EG fretless..

Multiple DE Cabinets!
 

Tim,

Your rig is very interesting. I cannot help but notice you are running a QSC power amp with an Alembic F2B preamp.

Ive used multple speaker cabinets on medium size gigs with great success. Seeing you rig - sort of confirms that - if you want big sound - you need either big cabinets - or more than two :)

Obivously this is your concert rig - and not your small gig rig. I am a fan of DE cabinets - although I do not own one; the tone from them are always right on point.

Tim, when you use the WT-550 head - which cabinets do you use with it?

Happy Thanksgiving to all...

Happy Thanksgiving
 

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Happy Thanksgiving to all my "Smith" Bass Brethren.

Eden Cabs...
 

Chris, to answer your question:

Any combination of my Eden Cabs would work great with the WT-550 provided I don't exceed the load limit of the amp. Ultimately, it comes down to what I want to hear from the particular speaker/cab in the given room.

My choice for a small room might be the 210XST(8). For medium sized rooms, the 210XST(8) and 212XLT(8). For large rooms, I would most likely use either the 210XST(8) and 410XLT(8) ...or... 2-410XLT(8's) Cab with a DI to FOH.

My QSC/F-2B rig: http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg would handle anything larger. Actually, the QSC/F-2B combo could be used in any of the above described rooms with the best results imaginable. I'm not talking about the total rig set-up, I'm just saying I could choose to use any single or combination of my Eden Cabs (just as I would with the WT-550) as appropriate for the room.

At any rate, with these set-up options I have, I am covered. :)

QSC Power amp
 

The QSC Power amp is the missing piece of my rig. I have a few nice cabs, and few preamps (F1X, Yamaha pb1, Trace Elliot V-type), but no good power amp.

So I am looking for one of the PLX series power amps.

I really like the way my smith basses sound with a tube preamp - really clear to my ears.

QSC-PLX Series Amps....
 

If you are in the market for a power amp, the QSC-PLX Series would get my vote. Just don't "skimp" on power. ;)

Eden and Mesa

The head is a late '90s WT-500 atop a 410XLT 8 ohm. I purchased the amp from Scott Ambush and couldn't be happier with the tone. When bridged mono, the amp puts out 600 watts into 8 ohms and you must be at 8 ohms. That combination has brutal low end, very focused tight and deep. IMHO, ideal for slap... right up your alley Chris.

The mesa rig is an mPulse 600 atop a PowerHouse 212. The tone is very tastey and compliments the tone of a J. The low end is a little weak (less tight and focused), when compared to the eden, but it more then makes up for it with character and a nice mid-range growl. I use it primarily for my rock and blues gigs.

Chris, you are more then welcome to borrow it anytime. Just let me know when and where you're playing and I'll even deliver it! You can repay me with a lesson or 2 ;)

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QSC/Eden Rig
 

Ok Guys,

Here is a current photo of my QSC/Eden Rig:

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Enjoy!

wow...
 

That's ONE Amp? I would be scared to live in your neighborhood..:eek:

Oooooooweeeeee, Tim! You've got to be the man! Nice stuff!! :D

QSC/Eden Rig
 

Thx Ronson. Well, I certainly don't consider myself "the man"; just very particular about my sound and gear.

One amp?
 

Actually Ken, yes. The QSC PLX-3602/F-2B (top center) alone will drive ALL or ANY combination of those Cabs: 1800W at 2-Ohms per channel; 2600W Bridged Mono at 8-Ohms; 3600W Bridged Mono at 4-Ohms: Pure Devastation.

The Eden WT-550's (shown on each side) will drive these Cabs VERY nicely also, BUT, simply not fair to compare it to the QSC PLX-3602/F-2B set-up. I included the WT-550's in the pic as an additiional endorsement for Eden. But DO NOT misunderstand, the WT-550 is a great amp and IMO, among Eden's best.

I use the all tube Mesa Boogie buster 200 combo 1x15 version, currently out of production...this may change when I start gigging again due to weight! (think it tops 100 lbs).

To The Floor
 

Normally I have my cabs stacked on top of one another, but I decided to lower the cabs today to place my Eden covers on them and I really loved the way the cabs sounded closer to the floor. So I think I'll run them this way for now on.

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Eden
 

Wow, I'd bet you're really hatin that set-up huh Al? :eek: LOL! :D :)

SO Many Choices
 

:cool: Tim this rig has given my BT 5 Elite so many choices when it comes to tone shaping, I can play almost any style of music with a simple tweak here and a click there. Totally awesome rig.

Awesome
 

Al, you're preachin to the choir brother. :) Seriously, I'm happy you are enjoying it. There was no doubt in my mind you would.:rolleyes:

By the way, I recently picked up a mint '01 WBT5. Let me just say, "I am lovin this bass!" :D

Ok Tim with the addition of the WBT5 Elite how many Axes are in the collection now?

How many?
 

More than I deserve. :rolleyes:

I play through a Mesa 400Plus head, a Mesa 810 Powerhouse and various accessories. I get incredible warmth and deadly tone from this beast.

Nice tone indeed, Chris. A great groove on "Standard Procedure"! And "Can't Hide Love"? :eek: Wow! I'm a blues-player, turned Christian, but I love Jazz music, especially the Rippingtons. Kim Stone is my favorite bassist.

I have a chance to buy a barely-used Black Tiger 4. Trying to work it out financially so I can stand up and be a Smith-owner. Jazz basses have always been in my price range. Currently, I play a 17 year-old Hamer Chapparel bass (mahogany body, bolt-on maple neck). It's time for a replacement. I'm trying to decide between a Victor Bailey Jazz ($2,000) or this guy's Tiger ($3,700). Then I can refinish my Hamer and give it to my son, if he makes it home from Iraq.

Anyway, I'm hoping to become a Smith-man soon. Take care and God bless... :)

Jack from Alabama

Oh by the way, :o I play through a Carvin RL600 head with two 2-10 cabs. The cabs are so lightweight, when I first lifted them, I thought they must have left out the speakers! :D It fills most clubs nicely with a warm tone and nice punch. It has a direct XLR out for larger venues or the great outdoors. I will eventually replace it with an Eden rig. But first things first. I've got to get Smith!!

praise and worship with a smith, the only way to gooo!
 

praise him jack, my name is ramon here in southern calif. and i'm also a church bassist. i just wanted to highly encourage you to get your hand's on that smith black tiger bass! if you haven't already done so, it's your blessing for the taking. you will never regret it if you get. i own a basic bsr6mw and the tone is well everything you would expect from a world class bass like smith. man at $3700 it's a great deal considering the condition of the bass with no modification's. i'm happy for you jack, i hope you do buy the smith. the neck's on smith's are the most thinnest in the buisness! so comfortable. i liked that you posted your bass rig by carvin rl600 it's got some serious punch,no lite weight. i'm also using carvin i have their bx1200 mono block it put's out 1200watts! of clean signal i'm running a carvin two 10's with a 100watt horn cab and the best part is the low end is on channel 2 with a carvin 18''cab. i'll probably never reach 1200watts but you never know.you mentioned that you want to get eden cab's? you know iv'e noticed alot of smith owner's prefer the eden line i wonder if it's the construction or the electronic's or a combination of both i'll have to check out the eden line. well jack go get that tiger and be blessed.

My rig consists of an EA Micro 300 amp (2 lbs) and either Schroeder Mini 10+ L (17 lbs) or an EA Wizzy 10 (17 lbs) all connected to Furman PL-Plus Series II power conditioner. Our church's Music Ministry include a 30 member (and growing) gospel choir, drums, electric guitar, percussion and electric bass (yours truly) with a Leslie organ added to the mix. Even with no PA support, my bass cuts through the mix like a blow torch!!! People cannot believe the soundstage that my tiny setup projects-myself included! My current bass is a Peavey Cirrus 5 Bubinga/Walnut (considered by many to be a poor man's Smith. But as nice as it is-IT IS NOT A SMITH!). As soon as I am blessed with the resources, I will add a BSR5GN to my weapons of praise.


A Groove is a Terrible Thing to Waste! :cool:

Tim's Going to Kill Me
 

Tim is going to kill me but I have traded my Eden WT 550 for an Aguilar DB 750 Bass Head. Herer are the specs:

The DB 750 bass head is a ground-breaking hybrid amplifier with a discrete MOSFET output section and an all-tube preamp. A perfect
combination of raw power and enormous headroom, the DB 750 sets the precedent for all hybrid heads. This head develops 750 watts of high fidelity tone in 4 ohms, 975 watts into 2 ohms.
Specs
Accepts 2, 4, and 8 ohm loads
Tuner Out with Mute
Self-Diagnostic Protection Circuit and Thermal Overload Protection Circuit (both with LED Indicators)
Short Circuit Protection
Power Output: 750 watts @ 4 ohms, 975 watts @ 2 ohms.
Preamp Section: Three 12AX7s and one 12AU7
Power Section: 12 complimentary lateral MOSFETs
Transformers: Custom Aguilar toroidal power transformer.
EQ Section: Tube-driven shelving type treble (+/ - 12dB @4kHz), mid (+/ - 12dB @ 400Hz), and bass (+/ - 12dB @ 40Hz) controls.
Deep Switch: Adds 3db of broad-band boost at 30 Hz.
Bright Switch: A passive RC pre-emphasis circuit at 5-7 kHz.
Effects Loop: Send pot is push/pull for line or instrument level; return pot is push/pull for parallel or series operation.
Inputs: One 1/4" input jack with an active/passive switch. One 1/4" power amp input.
Outputs: Two Neutrik Speakon speaker outputs, one Jenson XLR balanced output (-32dB pre- and post-EQ) with a ground lift switch, and one 1/4" jack preamp output.
Cooling: High quality whisper fan
Power Requirement: 100, 120, 230 VAC 50 - 60 Hz
Dimensions: 19" W x 14" D x 5.25" H
Rack Size: Three Spaces
Weight: 43 lbs
Warranty: Ten year limited

Sorry Tim, Al

weapon of praise!. right on
 

hi keith, this is ramon i just want to continue this thread by saying that wow! 30+ choir group! that's great and those leslie speaker's must be awsome. but when you show up with your new smith bsr5gn! your fellow band mate's better look out. that unique smith sound is gonna bring down the house. as a fellow smith owner i can first hand tell you that your church worship will never be the same!. i'm a fellow church bassist here in so. calif. refuge temple. it took me probably close to 7 year's to get my hand's on a smith bass and the sound a smith put's out is definately in a class of it's own. i hope that your wait will be a short one and that you let us know about your new smith bass:)

nice!!! aquilar is top notch
 

that's a low down winner! congrat's :cool:

Kill you???
 

Kill you??? :eek: There's all kinds of flavors out there. We all just have decide what works best for us. ;)

Thanks
 

I know how you feel about the Eden heads, anyway I loved my WT 550 but I'm moving in a different direction head wise anyway. My cabinets will remain Eden.

Al :D

Thanks, Ramon!!!! I am looking forward to getting a Smith and will definitely share my experience!!! :)

top of the line smith!
 

hello keith, just want to add that i hope you get the best smith possible you can get:).

Much like an earlier poster, I barely rely on much amp use anymore and also have grown very use to in ear monitoring. I do a lot of musical theater work, and most of the time due to mics on the piano, strings, horns, etc, it became much easier to just run a GK 250 head as a DI, post EQ, and no amp. Even for more traditional gigs, I'm quite happy running off the house system and having the mix in my ears tailored to the way I want it. For anything without a house system, I have a GK 210 cab that I use for DB and electric. It gets the job done.

Taking It Back
 

When I first joined KSBF my rig was exclusively Ampeg, I then migrated to Eden and you've all seen my posts, I even tried the Aguilar rigs and all of them are great. But I got to tell you for me the rig that most predominately delivered the sound I want is Ampeg. I currently own the 610 SVT classic with a B2RE head ran passively through a Fender 1200 watt power amp and it is phenomenal.
Tim I thank you for all the info and direction you've given me and countless others, you are the man.

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What suits one man's fancy doesn't necessarily do it for another.. Use what sounds good to you.

I almost wound up with an ampeg SVT4PRO and 810 classic cab because peavey was being slow about delivering my firebass 700 and 810tvx cabs.. in the end it all worked out though.. I love Peavey gear..

ADA all the way
 

After spending loads of time and a small fortune (at least to me) back in the '80s and early '90s, I finally built my perfect bass rig. It just so happened that the manufacturer gave it a marketing name, ADA called it the "Modern Bass Quartet" and if you were reading Bass Player magazine back then, you probably saw the rig on the outside back cover more than a few times ;)

I bought this rig new in '93-'94 (as I could buy new components and sell my old stuff, piece by piece).

My rig consists of:

1 - ADA MB-1 Bass Pre-amp
1 - ADA B500B bi-amp amp
1 - ADA Bassline HX (2 x 10 + 1 switchable 5")
1 - ADA Bassline 15 ( 1 x 15)
1 - ART MIDI controller (a leftover from previous gear that still worked for the ADA)

I also have a Furman power conditioner, wrapped in an SKB ATA 4U case with the MB-1 and B500B.

All the components are perfectly matched to get a wide range of tones of various vintage amps and basses and combinations, with 128 programs for storage, accessed at 1 or more clicks of a MIDI footswitch.

Other than a bit of Trace Elliot kit (wish I could have bought that new TE MP11 and matching footswitch that was all shiny new at my local bass gear place so long ago! only piece of gear I regret not being able to get $$$. If anyone has either or both of these and willing to part with it, let me know :D

Regards,
Richard

Fender Bassman 250/210 combo for me. Light, loud enough for what I need, and great tone.