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Arnold Schnitzer 03-03-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruben E garcia (Post 22160)
Sure Mat but he also said to make a very small path with a 90 degrees angle... I know u rather do a big one about 10d, and that's ok, but it makes me wonder if what he do could apply to a db top also
Please explain what this means, and who "he" is...???:confused:

Ruben E garcia 03-03-2011 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold Schnitzer (Post 22178)
Please explain what this means, and who "he" is...???:confused:
Sorry Mr. Schnitzer, we are talking about the Article on my post # 139, the Articule is:
A series of articles by David Harris as he observes
Luthier Jan Shelley at work…

Ruben E garcia 04-26-2011 11:24 AM
Update
 
Edges Almost ready
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0170.jpg

SP patch Drying as we speak:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0172.jpg
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0173.jpg
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0171.jpg

Ruben E garcia 04-26-2011 12:51 PM
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0169.jpg

Matthew Tucker 04-26-2011 05:18 PM
nice clamps Reuben. Suggest you put a bolt through the glued-up neck of the clamp, for longevity, otherwise they'll pull apart one day when you tighten up and need it most!

Ruben E garcia 04-27-2011 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker (Post 22501)
nice clamps Reuben. Suggest you put a bolt through the glued-up neck of the clamp, for longevity, otherwise they'll pull apart one day when you tighten up and need it most!
Good idea I need to make few more for the bass bar

Ken Smith 04-27-2011 09:26 AM
Bassbar
 
Is that Bass Bar in with the grain up and down or at an angle to the grain? I can't tell from these pictures. Also, how thick is that Bar?

Ruben E garcia 04-27-2011 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken Smith (Post 22506)
Is that Bass Bar in with the grain up and down or at an angle to the grain? I can't tell from these pictures. Also, how thick is that Bar?

May be u can see the bass bar grain better in this picture:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/100_4498.jpg

The bass bar grain is parallel to the top grain,

I have to shave the hump a little to do the edges, anyways it will be replace by a new bar.

I will tell you later how tick it is

Ken Smith 04-27-2011 10:39 AM
parallel?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruben E garcia (Post 22507)
May be u can see the bass bar grain better in this picture:

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/100_4498.jpg

The bass bar grain is parallel to the top grain,

I have to shave the hump a little to do the edges, anyways it will be replace by a new bar.

I will tell you later how tick it is
If it was there already or an integral Bar, take it out. The new Bar needs to be at a slight angle. There is a formula for that but can't recall it also, most guys have their own way but not straight as for one, it wont do as good a job and two, straight with grain will promote cracks along the Bar.

Ruben E garcia 04-27-2011 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken Smith (Post 22508)
If it was there already or an integral Bar, take it out. The new Bar needs to be at a slight angle. There is a formula for that but can't recall it also, most guys have their own way but not straight as for one, it wont do as good a job and two, straight with grain will promote cracks along the Bar.
Chuck have some instructions on how to position the BB (somewhat confusing instructions), I was thinking on placing the new one in the same position as the current one, of course unless this one is running 100% parallel to the top grain

Ruben E garcia 04-27-2011 07:27 PM
The famous Sound Post Patch
 
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0174.jpg

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0179.jpg

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0178.jpg

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0177.jpg

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t.../IMAG01763.jpg

Ruben E garcia 04-27-2011 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken Smith (Post 22506)
Is that Bass Bar in with the grain up and down or at an angle to the grain? I can't tell from these pictures. Also, how thick is that Bar?
the Bar is 1" Thick

Matthew Tucker 04-27-2011 07:43 PM
Looks like a pretty good SP patch to me ... well done! I find doing a SP patch is one of the most satisfying repairs to do.

Is that a crack near the bottom end of the bass bar, running into the bass bar? If so I think that spot might be a candidate for a small inlay patch as well.

Ruben E garcia 04-27-2011 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker (Post 22514)
Looks like a pretty good SP patch to me ... well done! I find doing a SP patch is one of the most satisfying repairs to do.

Is that a crack near the bottom end of the bass bar, running into the bass bar? If so I think that spot might be a candidate for a small inlay patch as well.
Thank you,
PS. its runs about an inch in the bar, yes I think I may do a inlay patch also there, can you see the crack on post #151 picture?

Matthew Tucker 04-27-2011 10:57 PM
yep that's the one. But careful, you'll have much less depth to deal with, only 6-7mm. It's possibly overkill, but I'd do it.

Ruben E garcia 04-28-2011 06:31 PM
Intregral or glue on Bass bar
 
I say this bar is glue on to the top , for some reason I not 100% sure

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0184.jpg

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0186.jpg

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0185.jpg

http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/IMAG0180.jpg

Matthew Tucker 04-28-2011 07:01 PM
yes 100% sure it's glued, otherwise the grain lines would match. But note, it's a very close/almost invisible glue join ... that's what you need to achieve with your new bar!

Ruben E garcia 04-28-2011 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker (Post 22519)
yes 100% sure it's glued, otherwise the grain lines would match. But note, it's a very close/almost invisible glue join ... that's what you need to achieve with your new bar!
Yes they did a good job on that join, fact its hard to tell other that the grain doesnt match 100%

Ken Smith 04-29-2011 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruben E garcia (Post 22521)
Yes they did a good job on that join, fact its hard to tell other that the grain doesnt match 100%
On that pic you can see 100% the bas is NOT the Top but a separate Bar.

Ruben E garcia 04-29-2011 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Smith (Post 22525)
On that pic you can see 100% the bas is NOT the Top but a separate Bar.
Correct.
So Ken To answer your previous question the bar is 1" thick


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