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Albert Smith 11-15-2007 04:57 PM

Ooooooohhh Weeeeeeeeee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7483)
Ok, Ok, I've been asked several times to show my rig. So, sorry for the delay. Here it is:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...DSCF0001-1.jpg

Sound? Tone? Range? Power? Punch?........Simply put: Devastating.

My goodness looks like I brought the big dogs out of the closet, you boys got good insurance I hope. :eek: My God that's alot of pasta!!!

Ronson Hall 11-16-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 7490)
My goodness looks like I brought the big dogs out of the closet, you boys got good insurance I hope. :eek: My God that's alot of pasta!!!

Good Googla Moogla, Tim! You are indeed equipped, cabinet-wise, for any situation! Blessed you are, my friend.

Here's my Eden "Dream List":
  • WT550
  • a WTX 260 for the light, quick traveling I do
  • a 212 cab
  • two of the D210XST
  • one 410XLT
  • one of the 112 cabs
I think that would keep me happy for a few years! :cool:

By the way, Bob & Brother Al, your rigs are looking pretty powerful!

Bob Faulkner 11-16-2007 12:10 PM

I need more power.. My head is only 700Wrms, which drives 350Wrms to each cab. The 810 will handle 800Wprogram, and the 215 will handle 1kWprogram.. So both are underpowered.. I'm gonna be looking into getting a power amp in the 1.5KW arena at some point in the future. That will come just before I order my Smith BSR5EG fretless..

Christopher Rhodes 11-22-2007 08:49 AM

Multiple DE Cabinets!
 
Tim,

Your rig is very interesting. I cannot help but notice you are running a QSC power amp with an Alembic F2B preamp.

Ive used multple speaker cabinets on medium size gigs with great success. Seeing you rig - sort of confirms that - if you want big sound - you need either big cabinets - or more than two :)

Obivously this is your concert rig - and not your small gig rig. I am a fan of DE cabinets - although I do not own one; the tone from them are always right on point.

Tim, when you use the WT-550 head - which cabinets do you use with it?

Happy Thanksgiving to all...

Albert Smith 11-22-2007 10:10 AM

Happy Thanksgiving
 
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Happy Thanksgiving to all my "Smith" Bass Brethren.

Tim Bishop 11-22-2007 10:16 AM

Eden Cabs...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Rhodes (Post 7546)
Tim,

Your rig is very interesting. I cannot help but notice you are running a QSC power amp with an Alembic F2B preamp.

Ive used multple speaker cabinets on medium size gigs with great success. Seeing you rig - sort of confirms that - if you want big sound - you need either big cabinets - or more than two :)

Obivously this is your concert rig - and not your small gig rig. I am a fan of DE cabinets - although I do not own one; the tone from them are always right on point.

Tim, when you use the WT-550 head - which cabinets do you use with it?

Happy Thanksgiving to all...

Chris, to answer your question:

Any combination of my Eden Cabs would work great with the WT-550 provided I don't exceed the load limit of the amp. Ultimately, it comes down to what I want to hear from the particular speaker/cab in the given room.

My choice for a small room might be the 210XST(8). For medium sized rooms, the 210XST(8) and 212XLT(8). For large rooms, I would most likely use either the 210XST(8) and 410XLT(8) ...or... 2-410XLT(8's) Cab with a DI to FOH.

My QSC/F-2B rig: http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg would handle anything larger. Actually, the QSC/F-2B combo could be used in any of the above described rooms with the best results imaginable. I'm not talking about the total rig set-up, I'm just saying I could choose to use any single or combination of my Eden Cabs (just as I would with the WT-550) as appropriate for the room.

At any rate, with these set-up options I have, I am covered. :)

Christopher Rhodes 11-22-2007 12:12 PM

QSC Power amp
 
The QSC Power amp is the missing piece of my rig. I have a few nice cabs, and few preamps (F1X, Yamaha pb1, Trace Elliot V-type), but no good power amp.

So I am looking for one of the PLX series power amps.

I really like the way my smith basses sound with a tube preamp - really clear to my ears.

Tim Bishop 11-22-2007 12:49 PM

QSC-PLX Series Amps....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7549)
Chris, to answer your question:

Any combination of my Eden Cabs would work great with the WT-550 provided I don't exceed the load limit of the amp. Ultimately, it comes down to what I want to hear from the particular speaker/cab in the given room.

My choice for a small room might be the 210XST(8). For medium sized rooms, the 210XST(8) and 212XLT(8). For large rooms, I would most likely use either the 210XST(8) and 410XLT(8) ...or... 2-410XLT(8's) Cab with a DI to FOH.

My QSC/F-2B rig: http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg would handle anything larger. Actually, the QSC/F-2B combo could be used in any of the above described rooms with the best results imaginable. I'm not talking about the total rig set-up, I'm just saying I could choose to use any single or combination of my Eden Cabs (just as I would with the WT-550) as appropriate for the room.

At any rate, with these set-up options I have, I am covered. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Rhodes (Post 7550)
The QSC Power amp is the missing piece of my rig. I have a few nice cabs, and few preamps (F1X, Yamaha pb1, Trace Elliot V-type), but no good power amp.

So I am looking for one of the PLX series power amps.

I really like the way my smith basses sound with a tube preamp - really clear to my ears.



If you are in the market for a power amp, the QSC-PLX Series would get my vote. Just don't "skimp" on power. ;)

Scott Reed 11-29-2007 04:56 PM

Eden and Mesa

The head is a late '90s WT-500 atop a 410XLT 8 ohm. I purchased the amp from Scott Ambush and couldn't be happier with the tone. When bridged mono, the amp puts out 600 watts into 8 ohms and you must be at 8 ohms. That combination has brutal low end, very focused tight and deep. IMHO, ideal for slap... right up your alley Chris.

The mesa rig is an mPulse 600 atop a PowerHouse 212. The tone is very tastey and compliments the tone of a J. The low end is a little weak (less tight and focused), when compared to the eden, but it more then makes up for it with character and a nice mid-range growl. I use it primarily for my rock and blues gigs.

Chris, you are more then welcome to borrow it anytime. Just let me know when and where you're playing and I'll even deliver it! You can repay me with a lesson or 2 ;)

http://www.gamenetusa.com/rigs.jpg

Tim Bishop 12-10-2007 08:48 PM

QSC/Eden Rig
 
Ok Guys,

Here is a current photo of my QSC/Eden Rig:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg

Enjoy!

Ken Smith 12-10-2007 09:02 PM

wow...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7697)
Ok Guys,

Here is a current photo of my QSC/Eden Rig:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg

Enjoy!

That's ONE Amp? I would be scared to live in your neighborhood..:eek:

Ronson Hall 12-10-2007 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7697)
Ok Guys,

Here is a current photo of my QSC/Eden Rig:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg

Enjoy!

Oooooooweeeeee, Tim! You've got to be the man! Nice stuff!! :D

Tim Bishop 12-11-2007 12:10 AM

QSC/Eden Rig
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7697)
Ok Guys,

Here is a current photo of my QSC/Eden Rig:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg

Enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronson Hall (Post 7699)
Oooooooweeeeee, Tim! You've got to be the man! Nice stuff!! :D

Thx Ronson. Well, I certainly don't consider myself "the man"; just very particular about my sound and gear.

Tim Bishop 12-11-2007 01:21 AM

One amp?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7697)
Ok Guys,

Here is a current photo of my QSC/Eden Rig:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg

Enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Smith (Post 7698)
That's ONE Amp? I would be scared to live in your neighborhood..:eek:

Actually Ken, yes. The QSC PLX-3602/F-2B (top center) alone will drive ALL or ANY combination of those Cabs: 1800W at 2-Ohms per channel; 2600W Bridged Mono at 8-Ohms; 3600W Bridged Mono at 4-Ohms: Pure Devastation.

The Eden WT-550's (shown on each side) will drive these Cabs VERY nicely also, BUT, simply not fair to compare it to the QSC PLX-3602/F-2B set-up. I included the WT-550's in the pic as an additiional endorsement for Eden. But DO NOT misunderstand, the WT-550 is a great amp and IMO, among Eden's best.

David Newcomb 12-17-2007 08:32 PM

I use the all tube Mesa Boogie buster 200 combo 1x15 version, currently out of production...this may change when I start gigging again due to weight! (think it tops 100 lbs).

Albert Smith 01-05-2008 09:38 PM

To The Floor
 
Normally I have my cabs stacked on top of one another, but I decided to lower the cabs today to place my Eden covers on them and I really loved the way the cabs sounded closer to the floor. So I think I'll run them this way for now on.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5203/77513691uq4.jpg

Tim Bishop 01-05-2008 09:49 PM

Eden
 
Wow, I'd bet you're really hatin that set-up huh Al? :eek: LOL! :D :)

Albert Smith 01-05-2008 10:59 PM

SO Many Choices
 
:cool:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7819)
Wow, I'd bet you're really hatin that set-up huh Al? :eek: LOL! :D :)

Tim this rig has given my BT 5 Elite so many choices when it comes to tone shaping, I can play almost any style of music with a simple tweak here and a click there. Totally awesome rig.

Tim Bishop 01-05-2008 11:43 PM

Awesome
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Smith (Post 7820)
:cool:

Tim this rig has given my BT 5 Elite so many choices when it comes to tone shaping, I can play almost any style of music with a simple tweak here and a click there. Totally awesome rig.

Al, you're preachin to the choir brother. :) Seriously, I'm happy you are enjoying it. There was no doubt in my mind you would.:rolleyes:

By the way, I recently picked up a mint '01 WBT5. Let me just say, "I am lovin this bass!" :D

Albert Smith 01-06-2008 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop (Post 7823)
Al, you're preachin to the choir brother. :) Seriously, I'm happy you are enjoying it. There was no doubt in my mind you would.:rolleyes:

By the way, I recently picked up a mint '01 WBT5. Let me just say, "I am lovin this bass!" :D

Ok Tim with the addition of the WBT5 Elite how many Axes are in the collection now?


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