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06-12-2010, 12:04 PM

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Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

but?

What was the Back, round/carved or Flat with braces? It looks like a Violin with an endpin.

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-12-2010, 07:26 AM

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Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

oh..

Ok, but are you referring to a braced Flatback? If so, we are talking Viols and not violin family instruments. I guess I missed in the reading there about your exact point. As soon as I read 'Cello'...

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-12-2010, 12:23 AM

Replies: 43

Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

giant cello

In my opinion, it's the 'giant cello' syndrome of makers in the past that made necessary all of the cut down basses we have seen made all over Europe.

Eric, I do not know all of your personal...

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-11-2010, 01:32 PM

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Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

but?

Are the Backs that are thin as you decribe Braced in the center somewhat like a flatback?

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-11-2010, 11:14 AM

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Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

??

Is there a Column 'C' (school 3)?

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-10-2010, 11:01 AM

Replies: 43

Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

??

Lasers, patterns, frequencies, research.... VOODOO

What ever happened to listening and feeling?

Unless you take the EXACT same Bass and keep remaking it with various backs and bracings you are...

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-10-2010, 08:15 AM

Replies: 43

Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

cans of?

Matt, I can tell when it's there but I just can't put my hands on it physically!;)

Why, are you looking to order a few cases of it?:D

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-10-2010, 12:56 AM

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Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

yup...

What does what? Who knows.. It is easy sometimes to gauge too much or too little in thickness and builds but which way to go to get the right stuff done is always interesting.

My Cornerless bass...

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-09-2010, 11:54 PM

Replies: 43

Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

same what?

I had 6 modern basses here one day, all the same model with roundbacks. No two sounded alike and they were quite close to each other in wood and measurements. A flatback on one would be as different....

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-07-2010, 11:19 PM

Replies: 43

Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

well..

Each Back will need what it needs. It is up to the Luthier to determine that. Balancing strength and tone combined is not so easy. It must be in its best condition and best repair. As Matthew...

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-07-2010, 02:31 PM

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Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

??

Who is to say? Unless you change the Back of an exact Bass and test it after it settles in with one of more brace systems or as many as you try, the comparison is not between Backs but between Basses.

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-07-2010, 01:35 PM

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Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

??

The Angle Break at the top to loose its shape? I don't think there is much stress there at all. Mostly what I have seen is at the lower bouts on a flatback with the wider part of the wood is trying...

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-07-2010, 07:36 AM

Replies: 43

Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

addition..

On some of my basses that were restored, the angle break does NOT have a brace there. My Hart for one has Linen over the break and a few long vertical 'finger' patches over the joint in places. I...

Forum: Luthier's Corner

06-06-2010, 02:33 AM

Replies: 43

Question about braces

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Posted By Ken Smith

humm

In the case of a definite upper angle break and especially if the Back has a cut there I think a brace there acts as a support piece to avoid or prevent the angle break area to crack because they...

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