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Viennese ??
Heres my most recent find , I'm guessing its Viennese or ........ ?
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It is in that style in the shape and the Scroll but looks a bit on the plain side. I would guess Prague before Vienna or at least either being equally possible. Nice looking bass. Send it to me, please.. |
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The things that stand out to me(beside the monster scroll) are the narrow F-holes as well as the lack of perfling on the back. Also the button is rather 'fat' compared to my other basses. Also with a mirror and light it seems that the end and neck blocks are definitely larger than other germans that I have seen.....she does look quite old though. |
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I cant decide if ugly or not ... looks kind of medieval weapon like ... |
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Viol d'Gambas? .. All over Europe from Italy thru Germany and spread east and west. I think the earliest I have seen these is the 16th century Viols, maybe earlier.
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I've just noticed that this neck on this bass is sitting directly on the neck block and not supported by the rib sides at all it seems . The neck block face is flush with the rib ends / I'm just interested to know if any particular school subscribed to this way of building ?
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Can you show some pictures of the sides/ribs? By the neck area and full shots as well, both sides and as many pics as you can post. |
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Can you see a clue of the dovetail in the overstand?. I can on my older bass. It appears that filler blocks were added to hide it, or it might have been converted from dovetail.
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side!
Please, straight side shots please. I want to see the profile form.
Like these; and body only without neck like; On the Dovetail with the Neck on top of the block I just looked back at some pics and see this on many German basses from all schools, some from Prague and some Viennese. These are mainly throughout the 19th century. The problem in history search is that most good luthiers when changing the neck with a new graft will modify it and drop it into the block. Often, the block is either changed or wood added to the bottom of it to compensate for the deeper mortise. On occasion a luthier will actually 'restore' it and keep it original. I have even seen this with blockless basses. To me, this makes no sense at all because the best neck set is the mortise. Why drive with square tires when we have round ones now?? |
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Do you have any basses of a similar style ? |
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It would be hard to say for sure if a Vienna 'style' bass is actually Viennese when it was also copied in Hungary, Prague and other surrounding areas. Perhaps the bass dealers in that part of the world would be able to ID the bass for you. About 10 years ago I went Bass shopping and saw two basses around the same price. One was a Johann Thir bass. This was 100% typical Viennese from the 18th century. It was a big bass and was beautiful. For some reason, I had zero interest in it. I plucked a few notes on it and moved on to a smaller 3/4 Italian bass that I had my eye on. Shortly after I found the Batchelder bass that suited me better, in the wallet and in the ear as far as sound for money. I think now if that Thir bass walked in for the same price it was 10 years ago I would snap it up. Back then it felt way too expensive being that it wasn't Italian. |
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