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Old 03-01-2009, 01:14 AM
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As you've alluded to, the best recording in the world is only as good as the mix and sound person. Way to many of them don't know what they're doing. A pity.
While I agree that many mixers don't have a clue, I must respectfully disagree with the concept that "the best recording in the world is only as good as the mix and sound person". Great performances of great material will ALWAYS trump a bad mix and even bad engineering. For one example, listen to the great Etta James' recording of "At Last". Does the fact that her "P's" and "B's" distort keep that from being a great record? Nope, even though it was an engineering error. A whole bunch of wonderful records have bad mixes; in the context of the whole, it doesn't matter at all.

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Old 03-01-2009, 06:09 PM
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I hear what you're saying Dave. While I don't disagree that "At Last" is a great record, IMO - if it were released today exactly as it originally was, do you think that it would be a great record? Pretend you knew nothing about her and had never heard it before, then answer. Maybe your answer wouldn't change, and that's OK. But I'm not so sure. In any event, my statement is more directed to more recent, say the last 20 years or so, deals, and is based upon my personal experiences. I've been the performer in the studio and live, a listener in the studio and live, and also the mixer of a master that the recording mixer was clueless on. Too many times I've heard and seen the results be bad as compared to the performance that I just did or heard someone else do solely due to poor mixing skills. My mixing deal was by necessity. I told the mixer that I could do a better job than he had done, so he offered to let me do it. No regrets from anyone. I'm also not trying to step on any one's toes, just stating the facts from my experiences.

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Old 03-01-2009, 08:57 PM
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While I don't disagree that "At Last" is a great record, IMO - if it were released today exactly as it originally was, do you think that it would be a great record?
Yeah, I think it would still be a great record. The string charts are great and Etta sings the bejeesus out of the song. But I also think that Etta's "The Right Time" (recorded in Muscle Shoals, and the last record that Jerry Wexler produced) is a great record. I think it only sold about 12 copies, but I bought one of them and treasure it. From my perspective as a recording guy, I don't think that Bettye Lavette's "I've Got My Own Hell To Raise" sounds that great. Nevertheless, it's a great record because it captures Bettye's performance, which is stunning. And that's ultimately the key for me - I want to hear stunning performances. Give me those and I'll forgive all sorts of mixing issues...
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I'm getting tired of my avatar. Any suggestions for a replacement?
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:46 PM
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I'm getting tired of my avatar. Any suggestions for a replacement?
Maybe I could send you a picture of a box of......well, you know.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:50 PM
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Maybe I could send you a picture of a box of......well, you know.
Oran, my friend, if you mention the 'g' word on this thread, I'm going to climb into my bass bag and zip it up!
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Hang on, why is no one saying,
"Come on Richard, don't do that!"?
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:08 PM
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how's that recording project coming along Richard my friend?
Well, to be honest, I haven't done much yet. I'll keep you posted.
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Well, to be honest, I haven't done much yet. I'll keep you posted.
you read my mind, my old friend - actually that was the question i wanted to post, but then i saw your post with the avatar-question.
+ i thought my question about the progress of your cd-project would put you under pressure

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