J B Vuillaume

[Brian Glassman]

http://mediatheque.cite-musique.fr/m...tion-musee.htm

I saw a supposed Vuillaume double bass here; go to photos and search Vuillaume


LégendeExposition Vuillaume : contrebasse, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1860; alto, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1861; violon, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1863; violon dit ″le faisan doré″, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1863; le quatuor ″des évangélistes″, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1863; face; autre collection

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[Ken Smith]

Interesting Vuillaume. The FFs with exception to the slant look just like the Mougenot. Perhaps he used the pattern from NF Vuillaume who you mentioned made Basses for him before moving just north to Belgium.

Another thing of interest is that I was told but one so called authority that Vuillaume never made a 3-string Bass. The Octobass is a 3 but this bass as well is 3-string too. The one I say as well as the Derazey, Gemunder and Mougenot were are 4-string from the start.

Maybe Vuillaume made both and my contact was incorrect.

[Ken Smith]

Originally Posted by Brian Glassman

http://mediatheque.cite-musique.fr/m...tion-musee.htm

I saw a supposed Vuillaume double bass here; go to photos and search Vuillaume


LégendeExposition Vuillaume : contrebasse, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1860; alto, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1861; violon, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1863; violon dit ″le faisan doré″, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1863; le quatuor ″des évangélistes″, Jean-Baptiste Vuillaume, 1863; face; autre collection

PhotographeFessy, GeorgesDescriptionektachrome, couleur0244644Exemplaires

Localisation Cote Documentation du Musée 23098

The Bass in this picture looks 100% English with an English Scroll. What do they say it is? If it's connected to Vuillaume I can tell you that his good friend was JF Lott Jnr who only made one Bass for a quartet according to the Withers shop where he worked. That Bass could be a Lott Snr as he made basses for many shops in his time.

[Brian Glassman]

The museum says it's a JB Vuillaume. The Octobass is in the same museum a few feet away.

[Ken Smith]

Originally Posted by Brian Glassman

The museum says it's a JB Vuillaume. The Octobass is in the same museum a few feet away.

Which bass? The one with the red varnish and painted back 3-string or the golden varnish English looking bass above? I didn't see the English Bass on that website, only here.

[Ken Smith]

From the Back it looks 110% English to me.

My Theory? Well since it is believed for the most part that Vuillaume farmed out the Bass work and the fact that JF Lott Jnr. was his good friend I would say that this one was made in London and possibly by Lott Jnr or Snr. If 1860, Jnr. If 1850, either as the father died in 1853, Jnr. in 1871. Lott Snr. was famed for his DB's even in his own time in London.

[Anselm Hauke]

i remember reading an article about lott and vuillaume (regarding their correspondence/biograpghy/something else i can´t remember) that described vuillaumes visits in london and their trading with instruments (partially in the white).
so i would not be surprised if there is some confusion about who really made and who lacquerd/stamped/labeled which bass ...

[Martin Sheridan]

I don't know which Bernadel made this bass. It was ID'd by a very well know dealer in the southwest. To me it looks like the factory copies I've seen.
There's a picture of a Bergonzi cello shaped bass in Cremonese Double Basses by Duane Rosengard, and there might be a picture of the Bergonzi that Vuillaume reworked?
The Vuillaume I saw looked similar to the pictures above; a nice amber varnish (not all of Vuillaume's varnishes are as succesful) and it had the double button. The outline looks just like the pics of your bass.

The owner of this bass keeps saying she'd like to find something smaller, but that's the problem with many large basses including Panormo.

I have a 3/4 double bass that someone ID'd as an early Vuillaume and said he played on one like it in Russia. It has a nice amber oil varnish but no label. There's a shop in England (Contrabasse) showing a picture of a bass they attribute to Vuillaumes workshop that looks nearly identical.

Vuillaume is such an important maker, you'd think we'd know more about his basses.