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Old 07-02-2010, 10:25 PM
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hearing your wisdom, knowledge and experiences is always a learning experience-

"Verbose Dissertation" that's funny. You two remind me a little of Johnny and Ed, or the cartalk boys. Will you consider a radio show... "basstalk" ? Hello you're on basstalk comin from Ken's corna, on Arnold's square---don't play like my brotha, and don't play like MY brotha." Hi, You're on basstalk ----Hi, I'm Lisa from Milan TN- is that pronounced Milan or Melon? Anyways, I got this 1946 Kay that my daddy got me on my birthday(Ken interrupts-Your fatha got you a bass on the day you were born??? Anyway, my bass is making this funny sound...Can you make the sound---are you ****en me? Do it again...

As you can see, I don't have anything of value to add to this post, but felt like I had to say something after Ken sharing his VD with us all.

Thanks Adrian - change out the damn neck already!
Thomas-keep reaching high-maybe you'll inspire the rest to just go for it!
Oh My.. Sharing my what? Little whos? Kay on B'day?

Wayne, you are drinking a bit too much of your own product!

Adrian, do that neck fast, before Wayne Posts again.. please..
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:29 AM
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Wayne, I don't think Ken has experienced Click and Clack, and therefore does not grok your very funny post.
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Old 07-04-2010, 01:58 AM
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Stepping back a bit to a statement that Arnold made a few posts before the Click and Clack business...

Arnold, do you feel that discussing a craftsman's hourly rate is inappropriate for a public forum? We discuss the rates of lawyers, mechanics and plumbers with no real issues, and session rate scales and (in many cases, the annual salaries paid to nationally recognized symphony bassists) are certainly available to those interested; are luthiers different somehow? I know that when I take one of my electric basses to the shop, the repairman generally tells me about how many hours he thinks a task will take (unless it's a straight-up job like replacing pickups), and I can multiply that by his hourly rate to get an idea of what the job will cost.

Or is the issue simply that it's impossible to even give an estimate of how long that sort of project will take without the instrument in question under your hands?
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:25 AM
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Dave, it's not a question of musicians discussing luthier's prices or rates; it's a question of luthiers discussing prices and rates amongst themselves, which is technically illegal. Competitors discussing their prices becomes price fixing in no time.

Luthier #1: "I charge $3500 for a fretostat replacement"

Luthier #2: "Wow, I've only been charging $2000 (and I know my work is better than yours). I think I'll raise my price".

Luthier #1 "I think I'll raise mine too (because I know my work is way better than yours)."

Of course the above scenario is a bit ridiculous, but there is some truth there. And that's why the FTC is supposed to exist--to prevent monopolies and to foster unencumbered competition.

Your other point, that it is impossible to give an accurate estimate for a given job without at least inspecting the instrument is also valid.
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:35 AM
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Oh My.. Sharing my what? Little whos? Kay on B'day?

Wayne, you are drinking a bit too much of your own product!

Adrian, do that neck fast, before Wayne Posts again.. please..
Ok Im onto it ! But not sure which way the scroll should face maybe I'll start another thread ....
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:24 PM
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Wow ,this thread has taken on a life of it's own !Wayne I was so inspired by your dialog that I grabbed a nailgun and in no time at all had the scroll back on.All that needs to be done now is to cut the end of a nail that is coming through the fingerboard and then epoxy the tuners back on !
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