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Old 12-13-2011, 08:50 AM
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Kenny, Eric Hochberg dropped me a link of this thread on Facebook. Yeah, I played a Jacobus Hornsteiner from about 1959 to 1977. It was in a night club fire in Minneapolis when I ws there with Buddy DeFranco and Pat Moran (of Scott LaFaro fame). To this day, it was the greatest jazz bass I ever played. The fire claimed the top and the treble side ribs. I had Christopher Mayne, (an English luthier living here in Denver at the time, put on an English top plate on that he had laying around and he replaced the ribs. It sounded as good after the repairs as it did before. In 1977, a drunk in a club I was playing tripped and fell on it. That resulted in the bridge foot crashing through the top and bass bar. It just didn't sound as good after that restore so I sold it to a classical soloist who didn't need all the power it had before.
A quick rehearsal with Bill Evans urged him to remark what a great sounding bass it was. The size was pretty much standard 3/4....not so big, but very powerful, indeed. I have some pics of it with Bill, but they're too dark to make out.
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:55 AM
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Oops, I fergot I have these from my first recording session, about 1963. Before the fire....
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:58 PM
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Here are a few pictures of the Jacobus Hornsteiner labeled bass. Paul, was your bass anything like this?
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:32 PM
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Mine was a different pattern. The FF's weren't as low slung as yours. The machines had brass caps on the cogs and no purfling design on the back. Only two ebony pins going into the button. Goldish varnish before the fire.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:43 PM
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Mine was a different pattern. The FF's weren't as low slung as yours. The machines had brass caps on the cogs and no purfling design on the back. Only two ebony pins going into the button. Goldish varnish before the fire.
Well, being that the name/label 'Jacobus Hornsteiner' was a trade name for imported basses and not an actual person, I think we can safely assume that bass models and even suppliers of the basses to the USA importer could have easily changed over the years. Any idea on how old 'your' bass was in 1963? I guess for the age now, just add 48 years to that number. Mine looks to be from the 1920s or so comparing the style to other basses I have seen with Morelli, Pfretzschner and Juzek labels in them. Mine I think had Hatpeg gears in it before as these machines, regardless of being old are not original to the bass and from a later period.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:41 AM
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Chris Mayne said about 1920 or so on mine.
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Here's the page on this Bass; http://www.kensmithbasses.com/doublebasses/Hornsteiner/
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