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Old 08-11-2007, 11:19 AM
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Cool another old Frenchy...



with this caption under the pics; Vend Contrebasse Pillement (Père). Les bois sont estimés de 1640. Entièrement restaurée. Fabriquée dans l'atelier de Guarnerius Del Gesu avec ses bois lors de sa résidence Ã* Cremone.
Contrebasse très puissante, avec un grave très généreux et un timbre particulier. Magnifiques mécaniques. Vernis chaleureux.

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Pillement (Père) is from 1640, then he is at least 100-150 years too early. (edit) I checked my Book and he worked from 1775 - 1820 in Mirecourt. The Paris thing was made up by him but never worked there. Here is another Pillement (Père) c.1790, 150 years later.

The two Basses however look completely different in every thing from the model, the FF, the shoulders and even the varnish. WOB had another Pillement just like the link shows a few years ago in a reddish varnish and almost the exact same Bass. Something doesn't seem right if they are both the same maker.
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Using Babelfish I found a quick and dirty translation that should shed some light and have everything make a bit more sense.

Contrebasse Pilement (father) Sells. Wood are estimated of 1640. Entirely restored. Manufactured in the workshop of Guarnerius Del Gesu with its wood at the time of its residence with Cremone. Very Powerful double bass, with a very generous low register and a particular stamp. Splendid mechanics. Cordial varnish.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:16 PM
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Question Guarnerius Del Gesu?

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Using Babelfish I found a quick and dirty translation that should shed some light and have everything make a bit more sense.

Contrebasse Pilement (father) Sells. Wood are estimated of 1640. Entirely restored. Manufactured in the workshop of Guarnerius Del Gesu with its wood at the time of its residence with Cremone. Very Powerful double bass, with a very generous low register and a particular stamp. Splendid mechanics. Cordial varnish.
That is a tall claim. I doubt that any of the great Cremona makers made any DBs in that period. The Bass looks nice but a Joseph Guarneri? That would be a first I think.
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Interesting site though, ran across this

To me this seems very close to my instrument, I think they are calling it a Derazet. Not a maker that I have ever heard of before. Does any know anything about this maker? I have to admit that with French instruments there are so many subtle details that you have to pick out making it rather hard to pin down an instrument by an unknown maker, even it if is a bit odd like mine.

Even this one makes me think of my bass in a way, at least if it had violin corners

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Old 08-14-2007, 07:00 AM
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Lightbulb It's 'Derazey'

I think the spelling is Derazey. There was the father Honore and the son Justin. The father worked independently and for Vuillaume as well as a Bass maker for him.
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