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Leopold Noiriel/Guadagnini
i found this http://cgi.ebay.it/Contrabbasso-ital...QQcmdZViewItem
bass, and then that http://philipjkass.com/Guadanini_speech.htm http://www.philipjkass.com/turinspeech.htm articles, and think thats very interesting. what do you think? Edit: i added the pic and the ebay text, to save it when the ad dissapears. Text:" Vendo bellissimo Contrabbasso italiano scuola Pressenda: Leopold Noiriel (1789-1849), lunghezza del diapason cm 106,5, fondo bombato in pioppo come le fasce, in perfetto stato. " Last edited by Anselm Hauke; 03-29-2008 at 10:57 AM. |
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Leopold Noiriel
This maker is listed as a French maker, not Italian. Even the first name is German I think.
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Neither Noiriel or this Pillement (Lete) are listed in Henley but do have only a slight mention in Jalovec. Thanks for posting this. I quoted the phrases mentioning Noiriel which took some reading to find. If this is true, I have learned something about the Turin region that I was before only barely aware of. |
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me too
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is this the bass that is for sale at robertson&son for 180.000?
(iirc the "buy it now"-price was 18.000€...) Last edited by Anselm Hauke; 06-11-2009 at 12:16 PM. |
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Yes..
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If the Pedigree is there and proven, the price is there with it. If the sound is exceptional, the price is higher yet. I haven't played the Noiriel bass much yet past plucking a few strings. I will play it a bit with the bow tomorrow and give it a good look and listen. |
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did you play the Hieronimus Amati at JD Hill? |
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ok..
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The 'acclaimed' Amati is not here. They decided not to bring it. However, I did play the Kousivitsky/Karr Bass and the ex-Tom Martin Maggini. Aside from historic values, I think I have better sounding basses. |
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i don´t know, all i´ve seen is the ebay-pic and the pricelist, so it seems not to be the same bass.
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i visited him last year before the exposition in brescia, and he said something like (iirc): "i once owned 3 of the 6 basses that are shown there"...
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did anyone play the "Stainer" bass ?.... a colleague of mine inquired about that instrument and was quoted 230K .... wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to much for a german bass if you ask me, I dont care HOW old it is. Where was this Busan located ?.... And as for that John Lott you spotted Ken was it at Andy Stetson's booth ?... He just acquired a John Lott and is selling it for 79,500 ... Pretty fair price for a Lott
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oh and those prices ............ let me sell my one of my organs to buy a bass
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ok..
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The Busan was at Reiley's booth just across from the Lott. The Lott is the same you mention and was once here in my shop as a possible trade-in. If you collected all 3 of those basses and played them beside my show basses, you might not like the tone vs. pedigree for what the price is on those as compared to mine. The Lott is priced fair but has been through hell and back with damage and repairs. I would have gladly taken it in on trade towards one of my basses 2 years ago when it was here but the deal never happened. My Martini puts out more sound as we did compare them side by side back then. The Busan I tried only in the booth but I didn't feel much in my 'gut' like you do when the bass has power. It does look like the real deal but it is a very small bass by comparison. A very sweet bass I would say but not something for a professional orchestra. More of a solo or chamber orchestra bass at most. |
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