Ken's Corner (Bass Forums Sponsored By KSB)

Go Back   Ken's Corner (Bass Forums Sponsored By KSB) > Double Basses > Luthier's Corner

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-23-2011, 12:51 AM
Thomas Erickson's Avatar
Thomas Erickson Thomas Erickson is offline
Senior Posting Member
 
Join Date: 05-23-2010
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 309
Thomas Erickson is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Smith View Post
Thomas, rather than think about it, try it!

Some basses work better with solo strings. My Blockless sounded great with them and with no loss of tone or power. Actually, heavier or normal strings can 'choke' a top and the sound as well.

Check my first post on the subject - I have tried it, and thought it seemed odd. The thin strings just didn't feel right, even if the tension was closer to normal. Which I'm not convinced of.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-23-2011, 12:55 AM
Ken Smith's Avatar
Ken Smith Ken Smith is offline
Bassist, Luthier & Admin
 
Join Date: 01-18-2007
Location: Perkasie, PA
Posts: 4,852
Ken Smith is on a distinguished road
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Erickson View Post
Check my first post on the subject - I have tried it, and thought it seemed odd. The thin strings just didn't feel right, even if the tension was closer to normal. Which I'm not convinced of.
On how many basses did you try it and what vintage and condition were the basses? String length?

Like I said, not all basses feel the same. Those that are tight, need help to lessen the tension on them.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-23-2011, 06:22 AM
Brian Gencarelli's Avatar
Brian Gencarelli Brian Gencarelli is offline
Posting Member
 
Join Date: 01-22-2007
Location: Simpsonville, SC (near Greenville)
Posts: 121
Brian Gencarelli is on a distinguished road
Default

Good Morning,

@Arnold- I glued the bottom to the block and then used two brass screws in the block on the overhang, which I carved around the lining to secure it. It has been up to tension for over 24 hours with no noticeable change. Believe me, I am keeping my eye on it. Also, it is fully seated on the block, it doesn't touch the top anywhere.

@Ken- don't worry, I have every intention of coming by the shop if you are in town with the bass in tow.

@Others, I will eventually try some solo strings, however I am not in a hurry now as the bass feels pretty good. I am beginning to realize how much the low neck overstand bothers me when playing solo rep. Orchestral music on this bass is fine. I rarely notice the long string length unless I am trying to do octave string crossings in half position, or a perfect fifth. When you hit thumb, that is when the monsterous string length hits you in the face. "A is that far away from the harmonic?!?!?" You also have to go farther down on bigger shift because of the overstand and the notes feel farther to reach. I really have to overcompensate on some of this Bach.

Thanks for the kind words and support,
Brian
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-23-2011, 06:25 AM
Anselm Hauke's Avatar
Anselm Hauke Anselm Hauke is offline
Senior Posting Member
 
Join Date: 02-05-2007
Location: Bremen, Germany
Posts: 51
Anselm Hauke is on a distinguished road
Default

i think this is a good idea to easily check the effect of the saddle-height to the stringtension
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-24-2011, 05:29 AM
Thomas Erickson's Avatar
Thomas Erickson Thomas Erickson is offline
Senior Posting Member
 
Join Date: 05-23-2010
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 309
Thomas Erickson is on a distinguished road
Default

^^^ I'd be embarrassed to take a bass out in public with that on it, let alone present it to a customer.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-24-2011, 06:12 AM
Matthew Tucker's Avatar
Matthew Tucker Matthew Tucker is offline
Senior Posting Member
 
Join Date: 02-19-2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 427
Matthew Tucker is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Matthew Tucker
Default

^^^ I like it, better than the moser bridge. It's clever. But what price?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-24-2011, 08:48 AM
Eric Hochberg Eric Hochberg is offline
Posting Member
 
Join Date: 02-02-2007
Location: Winnetka, IL
Posts: 189
Eric Hochberg is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker View Post
^^^ I like it, better than the moser bridge. It's clever. But what price?
I got this response from Moser's rep a couple of years ago -

"The price for the saddle for 3/4 bass including the tail piece fastener is
EURO 65.- plus EURO 15.- for shipping to USA. But please note that this
saddle has just the raw form of the instrument and needs to be adapted to
the specific instrument. We suggest to let this little work be done by a
luthier."
__________________
Eric Hochberg
erichochberg.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-24-2011, 05:05 PM
Anselm Hauke's Avatar
Anselm Hauke Anselm Hauke is offline
Senior Posting Member
 
Join Date: 02-05-2007
Location: Bremen, Germany
Posts: 51
Anselm Hauke is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Erickson View Post
^^^ I'd be embarrassed to take a bass out in public with that on it, let alone present it to a customer.
i think it is meant as a tool, not a permanent application
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-24-2011, 09:19 PM
Thomas Erickson's Avatar
Thomas Erickson Thomas Erickson is offline
Senior Posting Member
 
Join Date: 05-23-2010
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 309
Thomas Erickson is on a distinguished road
Default

hmmm, tools aren't usually screwed onto an instrument. Not that I have a problem with using some hardware to affix a tall saddle, but that's a bit much. I'm sure it works fine and everything though.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 - Ken Smith Basses, LTD. (All Rights Reserved)