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Old 02-03-2007, 10:17 AM
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Hmm . . . I'm looking forward to reading it. Maybe Ken's son Mike could give you some help here?

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Old 02-03-2007, 05:41 PM
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Hmm . . . I'm looking forward to reading it. Maybe Ken's son Mike could give you some help here?

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I'm emailing it to you.
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:02 PM
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Hmm . . . I'm looking forward to reading it. Maybe Ken's son Mike could give you some help here?

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Just PM Mike and see what he says. He's a pretty smart kid.
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:25 PM
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Just PM Mike and see what he says. He's a pretty smart kid.
Thanks Ken, I emailed it to Stan.
I will get some advice later off Mike though.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:33 PM
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Sunday down under.
Hot day spent with my alzheimer's sufferer mother.
We talked about the same things many times.
I'm doing a solo spot at an outdoor concert (30 min.) next Sunday and I thought I'd play 4 doube bass (arco) solos and a 10 minute tenor bass guitar medley (God Defend NZ - Take the 'A' Train - Dueling Banjos). Banjo rolls work pretty well on the bass guitar. I'll choose the 4 doudle bass pieces from my repertoire, but will finish on 'Sally Goodin' with a high harmonic tune included. Yes, I'm a bit of a W**ker, but you've got to make it fun for the crowd. It's in Upper Hutt and most people will think I'm playing a cello. You still see mullet haircuts in Upper Hutt and most people have some sort of Heavy Metal teeshirt on.
"Cradle of Filth" is always popular, as is "AC/DC" (who are probably more 'Hard Rock").
God, I hate it at work when I do something right (for a change) and someone says,
"You rock!"
Why can't they say something like,
"You are obviously an arco double bass player!" or
"Prowsey, you are sensitive to people and their needs, that's good!"
Hey, but we're talking Upper Hutt here.
The land where the V8 engine should have been invented, but wasn't.
The land where women are called 'chicks' or 'the missus'.
The land where you are apparently unsuccessful unless you perform the task of 'rocking'.
Rock: (Chamber's 20th. Century Dictionary (Revised Edition)) Large outstanding natural mass of stone.
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:45 AM
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Life is fairly quiet down here, barring a 'fight' with my 22 year old daughter this morning (me being a passive involvement) and my wife being verbally bullied at work by some women who takes exception to her perfume. Where's Rambo when you need him!
Tomorrow is Waitangi Day. (Feb. 6th) That is when an important declaration was signed between the Maoris and the European settlers.
It's called the Treaty of Waitangi because it was signed (many years ago) in a place called Waitangi. Over recent years the Maori have claimed that the treaty has not been honored and there have been payouts to certain tribes.
School starts on Wednesday.
I'm ready because I've been getting prepared for a while. Down here students have a long break over summer.
I've been practicing but am not feeling good about my sound. I think it's my bowing articulation and the fact that I need to do more practice with a metronome.
I watched an action film in Italian last night.
The hero was a guy called 'Rock".
At the end he said,
"Questa e` la mia citta`!"
I thought that sounded pretty cool. I could say that about Wainuiomata, down here.
"This is my town!"
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:07 AM
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Richard, I gotta tell you I am really enjoying your 'stream of conscious/conscience' writings!
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:23 AM
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Richard, I gotta tell you I am really enjoying your 'stream of conscious/conscience' writings!
I agree - I thnk Richard needs to start a blog. You could be bigger than Lonely Girl 15.

By the way, Richard, the Gary Karr email you sent me is posted HERE:
http://www.smithbassforums.com/showt...?p=507#post507

Let me know if I need to remove it or change it.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:00 PM
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Thanks Mike and Stan. Wow! Bigger than Lonely Girl 15, until some damn Lonely Girl 16 comes along.
Thanks Stan also for posting Gary Karr's thoughts on vibrato.


Remember that Wainuiomata covers band I was helping out (as they were between bass players)?
I got a ring from my sax mate last night to say that they were having a practice with a potential new bass player last night, but the band had decided not to contact me (he's a good mate).
Fair enough, I certainly didn't want the job.
Wouldn't it have been nice, though, if they'd rang and said,
"Hey Richard, thanks very much for filling in but we think we've found a bass player and we'll go with him for next Sunday's gig. We really appreciate you helping us out though."
The old saying is true - when you play for nothing people treat you like nothing.
I know the guy who's going to replace me.
Ron bloody Higgins! (not his real name).
In the early 1980's Ron came up from Christchurch to attend a Bobby Shew Big Band clinic and was billeted with me. He stayed for free for over a week and he payed for nothing. I drove him everywhere and fed him.
And he's a self interested boring old bugger.
He showed up at a gig I was playing in Tauranga (a few years ago) just as we were about to start. He wouldn't shut up, even though he could see the band was waiting to start. He showed up at my door the other day, then at the band's last gig.
My one comeback for my rough treatment by this band is that they've now got Ron bloody Higgins! (not his real name)
There must be a God!
Oops, Ken, sorry about the religious reference.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:31 PM
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Waitangi Day is a holiday.
People don't greet each other with,
"Happy Waitangi Day."
This is a shame really because the day symbolises unity between the Maori and the Pakeha.
"Pakeha" is the name that Maori evidently gave to the European settlers.
I don't speak Maori, so I'm not altogether sure what it means...
probably something like "new pal".
I wonder how many double bass players (down under) get a gig on Waitangi day.
We also have a day called ANZAC DAY which commemorates the World War I landing at Galipoli (Turkey) by the Australian and NZ forces. It was a botched mission. Makes you wonder why we don't have a victory to celebrate. Maybe our soldiers aren't very good.
Anyway, on ANZAC DAY every RSA (Returned Services Association) is looking for a trumpet player to play the last post at the 5am dawn service.
By sheer coincidence, our famous national fern looks like a double bass scroll before it fully opens into ferns. I don't know what the technical name for this 'opening' process is.
Hence, we have a link between Waitangi Day and the Double Bass.
We have a strong symbol of cultural unity. The native fern and something that came from 'Up There'.
"Happy Waitangi Day, and may your bass sound good today."
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Old 02-07-2007, 12:02 AM
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I bet you don't know what that's short for!
First Day Back At School.
It was very hot today. Too Hot. Far too hot. Heat that has gone beyond a joke. Old Mr Hot has really overstepped the mark this time!
I had my form class of year 13 students. What a sullen lot!
They should now be old enough to have a few social skills, but this is Wainuiomata after all. Wainuiomata, down under. Way down under.
Most students are pleased to be back because they find the summer holidays too long and boring.
Not this old teacher though, I worked on my vibrato. Ah, thanks again Mr. Karr.
I also thought about other things that people had dicsussed on sites like this... there is another one, you know.
I prefer this one because it's run by Ken, who seems very knowlegeable and always courteous.
Well, the moderators on the other side are very nice and courteous too.
But I do like it here.
I tried using more rosin on my bow over the last few days... I have been using it sparingly. I tried a bass in a local music shop (Alistair's) and the bow I used seemed to grip really well. Lately I've tried loose bow, tighter bow, less rosin, a little more. When I play solo, even though many people say loose is best, I find myself wanting to tighten the bow. It gives a feeling of security and saves having to 'dig in' too much.
Any thoughts?
Come on, I know you're out there!
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:23 AM
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Very hot DOWN UNDER today.
Sweating like a pig.
Oooops! Sorry pigs, that's politically incorrect! Pigs probably have a special word for sweating (perspiring) within their species.
Like the old 1950's idea: men sweat, women glow.
Perhaps pigs 'sklot'.
Scene: Two pigs in an enclosure. One is very bossy (a high ranking pig) and the other has the social status of a bass player.
Pig one: Hey, piggo, what about a tune, something I can hum along to.
Pig two: no sklot mister big pig.
Music is heard: boom boom boom boom.
Pig one: Hey, play something we can dance to or shut the f*** up!

God, pigs can be arrogant buggers!
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Old 02-08-2007, 07:01 AM
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Very hot DOWN UNDER today.
Sweating like a pig.
Oooops! Sorry pigs, that's politically incorrect! Pigs probably have a special word for sweating (perspiring) within their species.
Like the old 1950's idea: men sweat, women glow.
Perhaps pigs 'sklot'.
Scene: Two pigs in an enclosure. One is very bossy (a high ranking pig) and the other has the social status of a bass player.
Pig one: Hey, piggo, what about a tune, something I can hum along to.
Pig two: no sklot mister big pig.
Music is heard: boom boom boom boom.
Pig one: Hey, play something we can dance to or shut the f*** up!

God, pigs can be arrogant buggers!
Anyone home? Hey Richard, are you on any medication? I was just wondering, that's all. Nothing urgent.. Go on, continue..
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Old 02-08-2007, 08:54 AM
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The pigs in Animal Farm should have had a Sty band. George Orwell missed the boat on that one.

Good God, give me the needle............................................ ......
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:30 PM
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Chardonnay. No needle required.
But it makes you repeat yourself.
But it makes you repeat yourself.
But it makes you repeat yourself.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:26 PM
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Saturday. 10th. July, 2007. 8.05am.
I'm always very careful about writing a date like the one above because disaster movies always flash the date on the screen before the main action happens. The danger is that you don't know if you're in a disaster movie until the action starts to unfold.
Pays to be careful.

My scale practice today will be what I refer to as the Arabic (or gypsy) scale... C D Eb F# G Ab B C (with bow, 12 keys, of course). It's really just an ascending harmonic minor with a #4. I find, however, that it has a very distinct sound. Say you were going to play a tune in C minor and you had a G7 intro, using the notes from this scale sets a lovely mood. I get the feeling, from what I've heard lately, that 'thinking scales' is not the in thing for (jazz) improvisation. But some scales, like this one, certainly put their own character into a piece of music.
Any thoughts?

It's Saturday down under and I've got some serious practice to do. I'm playing solo bass in a freebo outdoor concert tomorrow in Upper Hutt. They've put me on 2nd. I think they want to get rid of me fast. The stage is huge and I'll have to amplify myself through my 100 watt SWR amp.
I always find it 'risky' amplifying arco playing... I'll take the middles way out of my graphic equaliser which I'll play through. Hope I don't sound like a washing machine out front!
Well, I suppose I'll have played before most people arrive at the concert!
Ciao, buona fortuna!
The locals often speak Italian in Upper Hutt.
No. Just joking.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:43 PM
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Any thoughts?

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Yeah - Are you a time traveler? Or is this because it's summer "down there"?
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Old 02-09-2007, 04:44 PM
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Hi Richard. Don't know what to say except I am truly and deeply entertained by your thread here. Down under is where the bass should be right? I never liked the ones with the extra high strings. Not that there's anything wrong with cellos and guitars, it's just better to be a low end string specialist, or a high end string specialist. Otherwise play the piano!

I've actually been taking some notes from your posts and when I've digested the information, I'll respond. On the "Down Under" theme, the convention is typical of conventions. There is no bottom or top of the world or you'd be hanging on for dear life.

Couple of things I can respond to: I don't think the hair is oddly placed on your German frog. Your description "hair flush with the bottom of the frog" is how mine is made and it is not unusual.

And about those 70's era Fenders;- I've seen a photo of Ken playing one of those. I still have mine, a '73 built on my 14th birthday, that looks similar (no rectangle inlays, just dots) to the one Ken has in the photo and these really are the powerful bass monsters as generally reputed in my experience. I don't think Ken is going to ban us for liking that old 70's Fender mojo. I have a couple of better basses (Jens Ritter built those) and there's still the odd tune that just sounds better played on my old P. It's just a sound our generation probably will never outgrow, despite the rather obvious superiority of Smiths, Fedoras, Ritters, etc. I know Ritter has his own proprietary forum too, but he's not nearly as public as Ken. I guess it is because he is younger and still building his company and just has one assistant. It's great Ken makes some space and time for us.

Why did the Americans tamper with English? I'd lay it to poor education and provinciality;- in England. In the early days most Mercans came from England and Merca hadn't started it's public school system yet. Of course it was Noah Webster who invented proper English;- in Merca. It's sort of like how Spanish, French, Portuguese, etc. came out of (Ita)Latin. Sooner or later, it will be Mercanish. Most of us Mercans would be lost without the spell checker. On the practice / practise issue it's probably a freudian thing where we try to avoid the verb to keep from actually having to do something.

"Is there anyone out there?" seems more like some Pink Floyd to me. And I read your posts trying to remember it is summer there. Here the sun is down at 6 PM currently and we are pretty chilly right now.

Here's a Mercanish joke for you: What did the Mom and Dad tomato say to the little tomato who was crossing the street? (ketchup!, ketchup!)

OK, "Ken's Corner" gets 386,000+ google hits", but this corner is number 3 of 386,000+. Must be doing something right! We're in the first room, or maybe just the one more people are looking for.

Let's say we get Katchy;- Ken's Kool Korner, for instance;- 1,320,000 google hits. Obviously being Katchy doesn't distinguish one as much as just being known for being yourself. Somewhere there's a lesson. In my earlier days on the web, I was just sure when I was reading some of Ken's posts (in another "room") that it wasn't really Ken Smith. I was thinking some (like there is a guy who posts as Jimmy Garrison, another that posts as Dragonetti, etc. in that room) fool is playing Ken Smith on the web. But after I read enough, I was pretty sure it was Ken. Now that's he's over here in his own territory, there can be no doubt. Oh, well, it's a small world among us bassists, monikers aside, we are who we are. I guess being bassists, or primarily "sidemen" we became more approachable, and so Gary Karr returns his e-mails and Brian Bromberg will answer questions directly sometimes, and Ken Smith posts on a forum and answers e-mails the same day.

Interesting take on Tennessee Williams. I've always thought that was a depressing story.

I've got a drummer that speeds up too. We increased his dosage a little and now everything's fine.

I got "fired" once from a cover band that played freebies (Mercanish for freebos) too often. A little later the only player that band leader had was the new bassist. Now the other members and I play actual "gigs". So there's another shoe yet to drop in your story, possibly. Just line up an acutal paying gig and see who wants to share the tip jar with you.

More on the musical side (finally), I'm going to try out your "Gypsy" scales. Thanks for posting that stuff as well as the other exercises (Karr's) The (jazz is what I think we are) ensemble I play with does a version of Caravan that leads into Kashmir. I'll experiment with that scale some and get back to you. It sounds like just what I need.

Well Richard, that's all for now. I have enjoyed your rather original postings here very much. Some time in the future I'll update you more on who and where I am, etc. You can check out my ensembles at Myspace.com/dropatlanta michaeljdavis.net/freetrans and http://the5thsundays.tripod.com/
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Old 02-09-2007, 08:35 PM
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Very interesting thread here. Like watching a show on TV that has a new episode every night. No re-runs, just fresh experiences being lived each day.

This is exactly what The Bull Pit is for. Ok, carry on..
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Old 02-10-2007, 02:09 AM
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Stan & David, you are fantastic guys!
I just let my wife read this thread, so she knew that it wasn't something like a sex site. Women can be suspisious.
She is a smart lady and she said,
"These chaps are very intelligent!"
Then I said,
"Well, what about Ken?"
She asked if he was Australian.
Sorry Ken, that's an old 'down under' joke...
A kiwi bloke has to have half his brain surgically removed after an accident.
After the the operation, the doctor asks him if he feels alright.
He replies,
"Mate, I'm terrific... fair dinkum!"

Love you Ken (in a non physical way)
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