Giovanni Dollenz

[Matthew Heintz]

Thanks again, Ken. According to Aaron, "the Guy Cole bass was modeled after a bass made Giovanni Dollenz of Trieste Italy dated 1852. Dollenz was considered to be the top maker from Trieste at the time and was reported to have studied with Lorenzo Storioni." Ken, did you notice any similarities between the Dollenz that you saw and Storioni's instruments that you own/have studied? I'm not sure that the dates work out for Dollenz studying with Storioni, but I suppose it depends on their respective ages. In any case, I'd love to check out Guy's work in person, and of course, I'd love to check out your Storioni (although it's completely out of my league).

[Ken Smith]

Originally Posted by Matthew Heintz

Thanks again, Ken. According to Aaron, "the Guy Cole bass was modeled after a bass made Giovanni Dollenz of Trieste Italy dated 1852. Dollenz was considered to be the top maker from Trieste at the time and was reported to have studied with Lorenzo Storioni." Ken, did you notice any similarities between the Dollenz that you saw and Storioni's instruments that you own/have studied? I'm not sure that the dates work out for Dollenz studying with Storioni, but I suppose it depends on their respective ages. In any case, I'd love to check out Guy's work in person, and of course, I'd love to check out your Storioni (although it's completely out of my league).

First off, the bass I saw and my own Bass attributed have nothing in common at all except they are both Basses and both possibly Italian.

In the Book you referenced (do you have the book?), it mentions that he was too young to have studied with Storioni who died in Cremona about 1801/02, about when Dollenz shows up in Trieste. Also, there is no evidence that either was in the town of the other. It is most likely that he used some features from Storioni at best as Storioni was not known for his consistencies but rather hes variation between the instruments he made. G.B. Ceruti was the pupil of Storioni and his successor, not Dollenz.. I think!

Just going by what I have read. The older books from the 1960s are often in error about dates and teachers. The more recent books like the one from Pio and others by Rosengard and the 'British Violin' book shed more light on actual location, birth, death and possible asscoiations.

If this bass is some copy of a Dollenz, then judge it solely upon that, not who Dollenz may have learned from as the Storioni theory has now been doubted or maybe just challenged. Triesti is quite far from Cremona. Triste is closer to Eastern Europe than Cremona if you look at a map. I don't think they used Helicopters back then to get to the gig!

[Matthew Heintz]

Originally Posted by Ken Smith

In the Book you referenced (do you have the book?), it mentions that he was too young to have studied with Storioni who died in Cremona about 1801/02...

Originally Posted by Matthew Heintz

According to Aaron...

Originally Posted by Matthew Heintz

I'm not sure that the dates work out for Dollenz studying with Storioni...

I wasn't referring to a book, but Aaron Robertson. You are probably right; the dates don't work out. Thanks again for the history and keep us posted on the Storioni.