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Old 06-03-2007, 07:13 PM
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My New Standard Cleveland arrived last week, it came strung with Spiro Mittels. There was also a set of the new Eurosonic strings in the box.

The Spiros: I liked the E and A, big and growly and I could bow them alright.
The tension was a shock to me though! I've gotten used to the 1/2 gut setup on my Christopher flatback, and the Spiros in combination with the longer string length on the Cleveland felt like bridge cables.

The spiro G and D were boingy, I'm sure they would settle down in time- but this gave me an excuse to put on the Eurosonic G and D.
Euro G and D on the Cleveland: The tension is slightly lower than the Mittels. The sound is darker (less highs?) and rounder, less raw. They bow nicely and feel more civilised than the spiros.

This morning I tried the Eurosonic G and D on my 2 year old carved Christopher with a Mittel E and Innovation A. Nice!
-The tension has gone down significantly compared to the same strings on the Cleveland. Feels more like Weichs now. The sound is still civilised- and the attack and the bloom hang together.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:57 PM
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My New Standard Cleveland arrived last week, it came strung with Spiro Mittels. There was also a set of the new Eurosonic strings in the box.

The Spiros: I liked the E and A, big and growly and I could bow them alright.
The tension was a shock to me though! I've gotten used to the 1/2 gut setup on my Christopher flatback, and the Spiros in combination with the longer string length on the Cleveland felt like bridge cables.

The spiro G and D were boingy, I'm sure they would settle down in time- but this gave me an excuse to put on the Eurosonic G and D.
Euro G and D on the Cleveland: The tension is slightly lower than the Mittels. The sound is darker (less highs?) and rounder, less raw. They bow nicely and feel more civilised than the spiros.

This morning I tried the Eurosonic G and D on my 2 year old carved Christopher with a Mittel E and Innovation A. Nice!
-The tension has gone down significantly compared to the same strings on the Cleveland. Feels more like Weichs now. The sound is still civilised- and the attack and the bloom hang together.
Try the whole set on one of your Basses. The Bass may take a few days itself to adjust to the tension. Then, bow and pizz them and see what I am talking about. I just got 3 new Basses in and set them all up with Eurosonics and they are all sweet with Bow or Pizz. Truly one of the great new strings out there deserving wider recognition.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:50 PM
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Try the whole set on one of your Basses. The Bass may take a few days itself to adjust to the tension. Then, bow and pizz them and see what I am talking about. I just got 3 new Basses in and set them all up with Eurosonics and they are all sweet with Bow or Pizz. Truly one of the great new strings out there deserving wider recognition.
-Ok Ken, I'll do that and report back.
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:52 PM
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I've put the A and E strings on- huge difference in tension and sound!

The strings are easier to press down now and feel very supple. The E is floppier than the spiro mittel I had on and bows much easier. The A really gets my bass vibrating. Pizz sound is very even, still nice and dark and quite 'dry' sounding.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:07 AM
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I've put the A and E strings on- huge difference in tension and sound!

The strings are easier to press down now and feel very supple. The E is floppier than the spiro mittel I had on and bows much easier. The A really gets my bass vibrating. Pizz sound is very even, still nice and dark and quite 'dry' sounding.
Daniel, give it about 10 days or so till the Top of the Bass adjusts to the new lighter tension. The E should improve in tension and the Bass balances itself under the new Strings which have a different pull from the G to E that what was on the Bass previously.

I also designed some other 'E' gauges for this set and the next batch they make might have a different 'E'. What I noticed was that some Basses like the regular 'E' now in the set and some enjoy a slightly heavier 'E' like the one that I designed for the heavier gauged set. After having them make a heavier 'E' for each set I then tried the first Medium 'E' on the light set and found a match for my Bisiach. This is similar to using regular Flexocor with a Stark 'E'. Like the Flexocors, some Basses work fine with the standard set and some work better with the heavier Stark 'E'.

I consider there Eurosonic Lights to be what I call 'Regular' tension and the Medium gauge 'Firm' tension since the diameter of the Strings are more similar in ratio to one another than are the tensions between them.

Now, where's the E/C extension String I asked them for? Jeff is nearly done with his latest C-Extension on my Bisiach and all I have is a Flexocor or Superflexible string to try as a match. The C-Extension is done but the chromatic latches are in development as he is making this one to be similar to those I have that were made by Arnold. It's a good thing those two are best of friends!

Once again, on these new Euros I think time will tell how they mellow and adjust to each individual Bass as well as their color of Pizz and Bow sounds on both new and old Basses. So far, I am quite impressed with them.
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Ken are these Eurosonic orchestra strings still available? I have a new bass, made by Denver luthier Eric Trujillo. It is 42-3/8" string length and is on the bright side of the tone spectrum. belcantos are still too bright, but passione meds were mushy. EP weichs are gritty and harsh sounding. spiro S42 mitt E-string is great, but a little loose. I have a set of used jargar meds on deck, and am thinking about flexocore/92 stark, or spirocore S42 stark
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Old 09-04-2020, 04:50 AM
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Ken are these Eurosonic orchestra strings still available? I have a new bass, made by Denver luthier Eric Trujillo. It is 42-3/8" string length and is on the bright side of the tone spectrum. belcantos are still too bright, but passione meds were mushy. EP weichs are gritty and harsh sounding. spiro S42 mitt E-string is great, but a little loose. I have a set of used jargar meds on deck, and am thinking about flexocore/92 stark, or spirocore S42 stark

13 years ago I posted that..lol.. Spiros are the brightest and not an orchestra for most. Ask the luthier who made your bass. He should know what works best on his basses for your desired sound. Stark gauges are harder to bow and need more pressure. Passione has Starks too. Flexocor Deluze is another string to try.
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