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Old 08-28-2008, 08:42 PM
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Just curious to see what this might run me?

I just picked up a used 03 BSR6GN. It does not have the BMT electronics with the dip switches,, maybe Ken can find me the exact spec's from the S/N?

But what would it cost to upgrade to an 18v with the dip switches and front switches...

Im sure it will be worth it too!

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well, thinking about it and doing more reading, the 18v pre-amp just drains 2 batteries, does not have any more "power" too it it seems...

so really the only thing I would do would be to add the dip switches...

if its worth it to me at this time... probably not since I am fortunate enough to have another fretted with this option....
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:41 AM
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well, thinking about it and doing more reading, the 18v pre-amp just drains 2 batteries, does not have any more "power" too it it seems...

so really the only thing I would do would be to add the dip switches...

if its worth it to me at this time... probably not since I am fortunate enough to have another fretted with this option....
Yes, the 18v drains 2 batteries but it has twice as many volts as well. When the batteries are down to 4 volts each, you still have 8 volts there. In essence, you have twice the battery life as the 18v model drains the same power as the 9v model, about .03 milliamps the last time we checked which was back in the early 1980's.

You are right about the 'output' power, no difference. The same as in a car. Two car batteries under the hood in series will not make the engine run any faster. It will just take longer for the power to go dead when you leave a light on.. lol

The other two differences with the newer 18v unit are the construction/durability and the internal D.I.P. Switches.

We have replaced quite a few 9v circuits from breakage between the Pot legs and the 'boards. This happens when the Bass is dropped in shipping or banged into severely. Also, when 'futzing' around inside the cavity changing the battery or tightening the Jack, a clumsy hand has broken just as many as the hits or falls. The new 18v model has a steel bracket mount system. You will crack the wood of the Bass before you break a Pot!

The internal D.I.P. switches is the only real 'sonic' difference between the 9v and 18v models. On the 18v model you can have the same 'start' settings (for the cut/boost) as the older 9v, the newer 'Ken-picked' settings as the current 'default' or, any other mixture that you can tangle up on your own. Each of the three +/- Pots (bs/mid/tr) has 4 positions of tone to choose from. Trust me when I say this. "I have tested them all and the two groups of setting I like most are the new and old defaults". After awhile while messing with the DIPs, you will start to forget what sounds good so, just be careful when playing in there as the DIP switch can be broken as well. You need a small tool to move them up and down and this tool what ever you choose can damage the circuit if you slit and hit something in there. I can see a gut playing in a Rock band with a bunch of 15s in the cabinet wanting the treble freq. lowered from 6k (now) to maybe 2k center so he can at least hear it as without a Horn and a good one, you can't hear the 6k boost or cut in the new 18v default or even the 3.5-4k in the older 9v default. The same goes for the Bass and Mids. I have no clue what will sound good to your ears so the best feature of the new 18v circuit is the diversity the DIPs give you to 'tune' you own freq. centers for the +/-.
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In the 12 years I have had my BMTE6G I never touched them and I think the bass still sounds great.

I haven't played this new one out yet, but for now, the sound is doing it for me.

Although, I may just do it to do it...

Any idea on costs (not including shipping back and forth of course).

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In the 12 years I have had my BMTE6G I never touched them and I think the bass still sounds great.

I haven't played this new one out yet, but for now, the sound is doing it for me.

Although, I may just do it to do it...

Any idea on costs (not including shipping back and forth of course).

Thanks!
Usually I prefer doing this in private and not on a public forum where the world can read about the prices and services we charge and perform.

It is not cheap because we have to 'gut' the entire Bass to do the work. If both jobs (S/P and new Circuit) are done together the overall labor is cheaper. This may also involve re-shielding all the cavities and does involve and include a complete set-up with new Smith TCRM Strings.

Contact me in private or call me for a price estimate.
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Ill contact you about it when think I may want to do it...

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