What kind of amp do you guys play out of?

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Albert Smith

Well here it is my new rig set-up, after talking with Dennis and Tim I sold all of my Ampeg gear purchased David Eden's equipment starting with the WT550 Bass Head supported by a 410XLT and 115XLT cabinet both cabs are 8 ohms but parallel linked together my impedance is 4 ohms.

Yeah, baby!

Still waitin on that report Al!

[Albert Smith]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

Yeah, baby!

Still waitin on that report Al!

Tim as usual you are "The Man" the suggestions you gave were right on the money!!! I love the sound I'm creating with barely any adjustments what so ever. It like listening to a brand new Smith. When your right your right I loved my Ampeg rig, but honestly my new rig brings my sound to a new level.

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Albert Smith

Tim as usual you are "The Man" the suggestions you gave were right on the money!!! I love the sound I'm creating with barely any adjustments what so ever. It like listening to a brand new Smith. When your right your right I loved my Ampeg rig, but honestly my new rig brings my sound to a new level.

Well, that is exactly what I expected to hear from you. Congrats and enjoy! Remember, you can take the load down to 2-Ohms and get an add'l output of 250W !!! You may not need it, but you can.

Also, when you don't need to use the cab's, you'll have to try using the 550 as a DI sometime. The soundman will love you!

[Albert Smith]

Here's a shot of my new traveling rig, David Eden 410XLT CAB - WT-550 Bass head and my Ken Smith BT5 EG Elite made in 2001

[Ronson Hall]

Originally Posted by Albert Smith

Here's a shot of my new traveling rig, David Eden 410XLT CAB - WT-550 Bass head and my Ken Smith BT5 EG Elite made in 2001

A dynamite set up, Brother Al! Congrats!! My first new Eden acquisition will most likely be the D210XST. I'm working on it now...

[Albert Smith]

Originally Posted by Ronson Hall

A dynamite set up, Brother Al! Congrats!! My first new Eden acquisition will most likely be the D210XST. I'm working on it now...

Ronson great to hear from you my brother, are you sure the 210 will handle the venue your currently in? I know travel wise it's light and easy to transport but I think you might want to reconsider and go for the 410 as it will afford you the ability to handle much bigger venues when you venture out to other places of worship. Just something to think about ultimately you know your own needs.

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Albert Smith

Ronson great to hear from you my brother, are you sure the 210 will handle the venue your currently in? I know travel wise it's light and easy to transport but I think you might want to reconsider and go for the 410 as it will afford you the ability to handle much bigger venues when you venture out to other places of worship. Just something to think about ultimately you know your own needs.

The Eden 210XST is (IMO) THE best 210 Cab. on the market. At 500W at 8-Ohms, it can flat bring it! I would encourage you to get it Ronson. Then later, if you need to add another Cab., then definately get the 410XST or 410XLT. Particularly, if you match them with the WT-550 (I highly recommend this amp)! The WT-550 will give you 500W at 4-Ohms and 750W at 2-Ohms. Then, you will have all the flexibility you'll most likely ever need.

[Albert Smith]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

The Eden 210XST is (IMO) THE best 210 Cab. on the market. At 500W at 8-Ohms, it can flat bring it! I would encourage you to get it Ronson. Then later, if you need to add another Cab., then definitely get the 410XST or 410XLT. Particularly, if you match them with the WT-550 (I highly recommend this amp)! The WT-550 will give you 500W at 4-Ohms and 750W at 2-Ohms. Then, you will have all the flexibility you'll most likely ever need.

Well if Tim say's it what's pop-in I guess you have to go with it. Tim definitely knows what he's talking about.

[Christopher Rhodes]

Tim & Al - is it possbile for you to record a few sound clips what your bass sounds like - with the DE setup. Some ideas are:

DE with the front pickup
DE with the back pickup
DE with both pickups
DE with your favoriite tone
DE for Fingerstyle
DE for Thumping (or slapping as it is called now)

That would really make this thread - exciting to say the least

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Christopher Rhodes

Tim & Al - is it possbile for you to record a few sound clips what your bass sounds like - with the DE setup. Some ideas are:

DE with the front pickup
DE with the back pickup
DE with both pickups
DE with your favoriite tone
DE for Fingerstyle
DE for Thumping (or slapping as it is called now)

That would really make this thread - exciting to say the least

Chris,

With Mike Smith's help, I started a thread about 5 months ago under "Music [BG]" : "Member Bass Clips". There is an upload filesize limitation (for obvious reasons) of, I believe, 5MB. I chose a short 30 sec. clip for this reason.

My clip is just a flat recording of my Smith Cocobolo 5EG. The link below will take you to the thread and my clip (as well as others).

http://www.smithbassforums.com/showthread.php?t=367

I am assuming that "DE" means David Eden. As far as getting a mix from my Eden Set-up??? Maybe some day when I have more time.

Realistically, trying to provide a sample sound clip of a DE set-up compressed down to an .mp3 would not be the best representation of the DE sound. If you really want to hear a DE set-up: Listen to it in a live situation. That way you can REALLY hear how good these rigs sound and I am sure you won't be disappointed. Especially with a properly set-up Smith Bass.

[Ronson Hall]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

The Eden 210XST is (IMO) THE best 210 Cab. on the market. At 500W at 8-Ohms, it can flat bring it! I would encourage you to get it Ronson. Then later, if you need to add another Cab., then definately get the 410XST or 410XLT. Particularly, if you match them with the WT-550 (I highly recommend this amp)! The WT-550 will give you 500W at 4-Ohms and 750W at 2-Ohms. Then, you will have all the flexibility you'll most likely ever need.

Al & Tim, I appreciate all the valuable info, and please keep it flowing, will ya?

Tim, I believe you are right on with your assessment. Going on your reccomendation and all the research I've done, the Eden D210XLT or XST are clear top choices for the money. And, check this out: I ran into a guy who, instead of running the very fine 410 cab choice runs two 210's instead (both 4 ohm cabs)! He says to me "Ron, I sold myself on this setup a while ago, If I need to push more air, I just make two trips and load the two lighter 210's instead of my 410. I leave my 410 cab at the church, and save my back!" For me, that made sense!

Plus, you get to take that WT550 down to a 2 ohm load (750 watts) with the two cabs, and really push some air! I'm really thinking about this, guys.

Al, I'm leaning toward the XST, as it pushes a bit more "low end" which I absolutely adore. And, I think I might be done with 8 ohm cabs for a while.

[Albert Smith]

Hey I ain't mad at ya my brother, there is nothing like a fat bottom to get the funk pop-in. Every player searches for that ultimate sound they conceptually create in their respective ear. You know I was an Ampeg man for ever, but I got to admit the sounds I'm creating with just a tweak of the "DE" controls is off the hook.

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Ronson Hall

Al & Tim, I appreciate all the valuable info, and please keep it flowing, will ya?

Tim, I believe you are right on with your assessment. Going on your reccomendation and all the research I've done, the Eden D210XLT or XST are clear top choices for the money. And, check this out: I ran into a guy who, instead of running the very fine 410 cab choice runs two 210's instead (both 4 ohm cabs)! He says to me "Ron, I sold myself on this setup a while ago, If I need to push more air, I just make two trips and load the two lighter 210's instead of my 410. I leave my 410 cab at the church, and save my back!" For me, that made sense!

Plus, you get to take that WT550 down to a 2 ohm load (750 watts) with the two cabs, and really push some air! I'm really thinking about this, guys.

Al, I'm leaning toward the XST, as it pushes a bit more "low end" which I absolutely adore. And, I think I might be done with 8 ohm cabs for a while.

I can see doin 2x210XST's, and yes, the XST's do shine a tad more on the bottom end. Choice of load (2, 4, or 8 Ohm) on the amp is obviously a choice, and only you can make it. 2 4-Ohm 210XST's will work great with the 550. Just keep in mind: Pushing air is key. You just have to decide how much air you will want and/or need to push. BTW, the 410 Cabs roll very nicely on wheels, LOL!

And Al, don't even second guess your choice of cabs (i.e. XST vs. XLT) here. What you have is also smokin!

[Ronson Hall]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

I can see doin 2x210XST's, and yes, the XST's do shine a tad more on the bottom end. Choice of load (2, 4, or 8 Ohm) on the amp is obviously a choice, and only you can make it. 2 4-Ohm 210XST's will work great with the 550. Just keep in mind: Pushing air is key. You just have to decide how much air you will want and/or need. BTW, the 410 Cabs roll very nicely on wheels, LOL!

And Al, don't even second guess your choice of cabs (i.e. XST vs. XLT) here. What you have is also smokin!

Ditto to Al, Tim. Al, you've some beautiful stuff, man! I have two frends of mine here in the Alamo City with the same set up as you, and they sound fabulous!

Tim, I also am going to try to unload my Traveler Plus so that I can get into a WT550, so wish me well. Brother Al, good "lookin' out" on the internet for those deals, bro! Please keep 'em comin' as time permits...

[Laurent Vergnac]

Originally Posted by Desmund Nichols

Hello all Ken Smith bass players. My question for all you talented bass players is what kind of amps do yall play your basses out of? I for one have an Eden head, with a Goliath III cab.

I use a SWR SM 500 into a 410 Mesa Boogie Diesel Cab (8ohm) to play my BSR6GN. It sounds pretty accurate for the money. Not the greatest sound though.

[Albert Smith]

This is no "JOKE" this set-up is serious if your faint at heart don't try it, because your gonna LOVE it. Thanks Tim absolutely the BEST sounding rig I have ever owned. Expensive but worth every penny.

[Tim Bishop]

Al,

I have no doubt.

Having a good idea of what you wanted to hear; this is a Great choice you've made.

My first Eden rig was an 8-Ohm 410XLT and 115XLT. I used the WT-800 to drive them (I used Bridged Mono (800W+) to push both speakers.

Enjoy!

[Bob Faulkner]

I'll repost the pic of mine just to illustrate heavy weight contender status..



That puppy is a back breaker, but man it sounds sweet.

[Tim Bishop]

Ok, Ok, I've been asked several times to show my rig. So, sorry for the delay. Here it is:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...n/DSCF0050.jpg

Sound? Power? Punch? Tone? Coverage?........Simply put: Devastating.

[Bob Faulkner]

Yep, that looks like a painful back as well. Well done!!