Auguste Sebastian Bernadel, 1858 ?

[Ken Smith]

Well, I agree that this Bass is a little mystery but the C-bouts do not look French to me at all. Either German or Bohemian actually. On the Varnish, how do you know the varnish is actually original? What if someone 20, 40, 60 or 80 years ago refinished it. Would you be able to tell? Also, not all Red over Gold = French! Have a look at my Martini and tell me if that doesn't look similar in color as well.

The Bass is a nice looking Bass whatever it is and the Scroll is not easy to tell in Pics. I would need to have it here with a UV light and check the Varnish as compared to the Back to see if it matches. If the head is older than the possible re-finish, then it might match if it was completely stripped. If the Varnish on the Bass is original or if the Head's varnish is different under UV, then we know for sure it has been replaced. Many Basses have led a rough and tough life. Many of the types or Repairs and butchery that we have seen on some older Basses are not done much in todays world but there are some who just don't know any better so beware when having your Bass fixed by anyone other than a top class Bass luthier.

On the Elgar Pics, I can't post them for you sorry. On this Bass, I still want to see the back Button area and Purfling close-up if possible.

[Anselm Hauke]

ken,
don´t you see any affinity between martins bass and the derazey i posted here?
thank you
anselm

[Ken Smith]

That's a Derazey Bass above? The one I have seen looks like a Vuillaume except for the Varnish which is a greenish brown (for lack of a better description). It is a full 7/8 with Violin corners, Cello shape and button.

That Bass you posted does look French but is it supposed to be Justin or Honore' Derazey? What exactly does the Label say?

[Anselm Hauke]

i found it here:
http://www.paris-contrebasses.com/pages/actualite2.htm

there a two "derazeys" on the page. scroll down to the second one

[ChrisTurner]

Originally Posted by Anselm Hauke

ken,
don´t you see any affinity between martins bass and the derazey i posted here?
thank you
anselm

Hi i was wondering if you could post a picture of the other side of the scroll it looks like your tunining machine for the d string is on backwards - like mine in the xavier jacquet section

[Anselm Hauke]

Originally Posted by ChrisTurner

Hi i was wondering if you could post a picture of the other side of the scroll it looks like your tunining machine for the d string is on backwards - like mine in the xavier jacquet section

do you mean martins bass or the derazey?

[Anselm Hauke]

do you want this?

[Ken Smith]

Originally Posted by Anselm Hauke

do you want this?

That's a French Scroll? With those German tuners? They look original to the Scroll. I highly doubt that is French. If the Bass is confirmed French then do a UV light test on the bass comparing the Scroll to the Back and Ribs.

[Anselm Hauke]

Originally Posted by Ken Smith

That's a French Scroll? With those German tuners? They look original to the Scroll. I highly doubt that is French. If the Bass is confirmed French then do a UV light test on the bass comparing the Scroll to the Back and Ribs.

ken, please read the whole thread...

he wanted a pic of the scroll, he got it

[Anselm Hauke]

Originally Posted by Anselm Hauke

do you mean martins bass or the derazey?

hmm, i was not sure what bass he meant...