Please Help Identify Two Basses

[Keith Jevons]

Thanks for the comments so far guys
Here are the dimensions

the red bass
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3973201...7620249351817/
L.o.b. 45"
Upper 21 1/2"
Centre 14 3/4"
Lower 27 3/8"
Upper rib 8 1/4"
Lower rib 8 5/8"
Stop 42 5/8"

the German bass
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3973201...7620249385619/
L.o.b. 43"
Upper 20 3/8"
Centre 14 1/8"
Lower 25 7/8"
Upper rib 8 1/2"
Lower rib 8 5/8"
Stop 41 1/4"