Amp volume question

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Don Edge

I wish I had the Eden gear for him to set-up.

What part of Texas are you located?

[Don Edge]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

What part of Texas are you located?

I am North of San Antonio. I called around and found a price of $900 plus tax for the WT-405. That was the lowest. It was at Sam Ash Music.

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Don Edge

I am North of San Antonio. I called around and found a price of $900 plus tax for the WT-405. That was the lowest. It was at Sam Ash Music.

Is the amp new in the box?

BTW - Have you tried Bass Emporium in Austin? They carry Eden and have a great selection of Eden amps and cabinets. If you are interested, call first and see if they have what we've discussed. If so, it might be worth the drive to go there (with your bass) and try it out.

[Tim Bishop]

Here's the link to Bass Emporium.

http://www.bassemporium.com/

Looks like they may have, in stock, what we've been discussing. Maybe they can work you a great package deal.

[Don Edge]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

Here's the link to Bass Emporium.

http://www.bassemporium.com/

Looks like they may have, in stock, what we've been discussing. Maybe they can work you a great package deal.

I did call them and have been to their store. They were more but did not talk about a package deal.

Sound I like/looking for in relation to drums and me: I like punchy full bass with a good bottom. The Fender rumble does have a decent sound. Don't get me wrong. It just sounds somewhat muddy in the low registers and has to be turned up to get the punchy full good bottom bass sound. I do not play the bass by turning up the rig or bass and barely touching the strings. I am farely rough. This may have been a problem with some of the lesser quality 10 or 12 inch speakers. The sound tends to come out exploding thus popping the inferior speaker causing me to go with the 15s. With the Eden set-up, I may have to change, somewhat, how I play. This would not be an issue if I could get the same sound I am looking for at lower volumes but with good quality.

Does this make sense?

[Don Edge]

I also like the bass to be about the same level in loudness as the drums. Depending on the song, of course, this can change. All in all the bass should be slightly louder than the drums. This is my opinions but I am not on the board or in the audience. I only know what I want from the bass.

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Don Edge

I also like the bass to be about the same level in loudness as the drums. Depending on the song, of course, this can change. All in all the bass should be slightly louder than the drums. This is my opinions but I am not on the board or in the audience. I only know what I want from the bass.

You wouldn't want to overpower the drummer, but accentuate equally with the kick; without burying him in the mix. You can listen to many well and professionally mixed tunes and hear how well the bass and kick are mixed.

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Don Edge

I did call them and have been to their store. They were more but did not talk about a package deal.

Sound I like/looking for in relation to drums and me: I like punchy full bass with a good bottom. The Fender rumble does have a decent sound. Don't get me wrong. It just sounds somewhat muddy in the low registers and has to be turned up to get the punchy full good bottom bass sound. I do not play the bass by turning up the rig or bass and barely touching the strings. I am farely rough. This may have been a problem with some of the lesser quality 10 or 12 inch speakers. The sound tends to come out exploding thus popping the inferior speaker causing me to go with the 15s. With the Eden set-up, I may have to change, somewhat, how I play. This would not be an issue if I could get the same sound I am looking for at lower volumes but with good quality.

Does this make sense?

Well, the 15' (depending on maker and design of cab) is designed to hit the lower range (30 - 2k Hz) and hopefully somewhere in the 103 SPL range. The 10's and 12's you reference: Sounds like you either pushed them beyond what they were rated or maybe you were overdriving the amp with your bass. Several possibilities here.

There are endless possibilities as to getting you where you need to be, soundwise. I would encourage you to pursue a better bass rig/amp set-up vs. what you have. In the end, you have to be satisfied with your set-up and sound, outside of all the varying and subjective advice you may receive; including mine. All I can do is answer your questions and offer advice based on my experience.

[Don Edge]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

Here's the link to Bass Emporium.

http://www.bassemporium.com/

Looks like they may have, in stock, what we've been discussing. Maybe they can work you a great package deal.

What about the WT-405 and the 210XST neo? How would that combo work?

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Don Edge

What about the WT-405 and the 210XST neo? How would that combo work?

Oh yeah. That would be a nice beginning!

[Don Edge]

I found out it is a 4 ohm cab. They were discounting the 8 ohm cabs pretty good. So what is better for where I am playing, the XST or XLT, if only one is going to be used? I found them at Sam Ash Music on-line cheaper at 8 ohm. Bassemporium was all about how loud you could play. That is why they liked the 4 ohm.