Playing Jazz

[Richard Prowse]

Originally Posted by Anselm Hauke

adrian,
i once had a gig with placido domingo, but i don´t call you a jerk

Thanks Anselm, my friend. Your support is really appreciated.

Personally I don't care if this guy's played with God, I think I've been insulted by nicer people in my time.

[Paul Warburton]

Richard, why would you address me as "this guy" when you know I'm right here reading your post? Take that one into a real life conversation in a group of people.....that would sound and look a bit odd, no?

Anselm, the fact that I've played with some people has absolutely no bearing on this.....uh, what ever you call this thing.
You seem to have a problem addressing me personally as well as your friend, Richard.
This crap is also well known on Internet Talk Sites....it's called the "Buddy System".
Richard, bring in some more of your "support" Buds. Just keep talking back and forth between each other like I wasn't here..........
How many PM's you got out to rally the "Troup"?

EDIT: Sorry, Richard....I just really took a look at your last sentence there....... You think that you've been insulted by nicer people than me. Yep, that is pretty strange. Whew.

[Ken Smith]

ok.. is everyone feeling better now and ready to talk Jazz again on this Thread. Gee, I hate being the one that has to keep order but Paul is right here. Sarcastic 'sniper'-like remarks do not go unnoticed in print by the average reader.

Richard, Paul had asked me about you as your replies seems a little strange so, I told him to read your 'Down Here' postings to get a better picture of what to expect. Now that Paul has a better picture of who or what he's dealing with there might be less surprises.

About Jazz, it's almost like an expensive restaurant. If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it. If you have to ask how, perhaps you can't do it.

Look back a jazz players for a moment and look actually at their lives, not their notes. When I was young and starting out I was standing outside a rehearsal studio and waiting for the door to open as it was still locked. There was an old bass player standing outside and in talking I mentioned I wanted to play jazz. He replied, "if you wanna play jazz, you have to pay dues". I looked up and smiled and said, "I pay dues. I've been in the Union for over a year". Well, that wasn't the kind of dues he was referring to.

Richard, a school teacher from NZ will not feel the 'life pain' it takes to pull the notes out from your gut to play jazz. The notes come from your gut and THEN thru your fingers. To me, it seems that your mind is more of the organizer than the creator in this sense.

Just playing a lot of cool sounding jazz-like riffs does not mean you are playing jazz.

Paul and I share something very special. We both got to play with the great Bill Evans Trio. For me it was only sitting in at the Blue Note in NYC for one song. For Paul, it was his gig for awhile and was not the only gig he had with such notables. I too played with a few others and many famous singers as well. The great Yusef Lateef was the Tenor soloist with Johnny Mathis when I was on that gig playing Bass. The gig was about a month long in NY including a big concert at MSG. Just a couple years earlier while still in School (High School of Music & Art), Yusef came in as a student teacher while getting his degree. It was such a pleasure to actually work with him on stage. Sitting in the Pit with Al McKibbon was another great week. I have 20 years under my belt playing in the big Apple and it was not easy.

When you ask people with real professional experience like I just mentioned and get an answer, please don't take it light or challenge that persons 'life-experiences'. It comes off as a total disrespectful insult.

Experience does not come cheap Richard so please don't take for granted those that take the time to share or explain things from their heart.

[Eric Hochberg]

+1 One of your finer posts, Ken. Well said.

[Tim Bishop]

Yes, a big +1: Paul, Ken, and Eric.

[Anselm Hauke]

dear paul, this (=discussion about communication) is not easy for me, because english is not my main language, but i want to try to clarify some things:

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

Anselm, the fact that I've played with some people has absolutely no bearing on this.....uh, what ever you call this thing.
You seem to have a problem addressing me personally as well as your friend, Richard.

in post 50 i was answering adrian, so i wrote: "adrian, ..."
i have no problem to talk with you, my reaction to you in post 48 was this:" ", because your post #47 confused me a little bit. i admit, that was a very short answer.

Originally Posted by Paul Warburton

This crap is also well known on Internet Talk Sites....it's called the "Buddy System".
Richard, bring in some more of your "support" Buds. Just keep talking back and forth between each other like I wasn't here..........
How many PM's you got out to rally the "Troup"?

richard is my friend (but i am not his "support buddy"), ken is your friend, thats ok for me.
richard did not pm me to post here.
i am nobodys "troup"
i posted this: , because i was confused because it seemed to me that you insulted richard because you did not like the "down here" thread.

[Richard Prowse]

Originally Posted by Anselm Hauke

dear paul, this (=discussion about communication) is not easy for me, because english is not my main language, but i want to try to clarify some things:

in post 50 i was answering adrian, so i wrote: "adrian, ..."
i have no problem to talk with you, my reaction to you in post 48 was this:" ", because your post #47 confused me a little bit. i admit, that was a very short answer.

richard is my friend (but i am not his "support buddy"), ken is your friend, thats ok for me.
richard did not pm me to post here.
i am nobodys "troup"
i posted this: , because i was confused because it seemed to me that you insulted richard because you did not like the "down here" thread.

Anselm,
you are a wonderful friend and I really treasure your friendship - as you know.
I just wrote a long reply to Kenny Boy, Paul and Tim but deleted it by mistake, which was probably a good thing. The Down here (NZ) thread was pretty harmless really.
Hey, you know where to contact me. Keep your ears stiff, my friend and let this thing go now. I won't be back on this site.

Oh, and the '+1' thing is so last year boys.