Viennese ??

[Adrian Levi]

Originally Posted by Ken Smith

I have seen Basses with that Scroll style from the regions of Prague, Hungary and Vienna. The F-holes don't look much like the old Vienna makers but then again, I have only seen a few.

It is in that style in the shape and the Scroll but looks a bit on the plain side. I would guess Prague before Vienna or at least either being equally possible.

Nice looking bass. Send it to me, please..

If I decide to move it Ill be sure to let you know first

The things that stand out to me(beside the monster scroll) are the narrow F-holes as well as the lack of perfling on the back. Also the button is rather 'fat' compared to my other basses. Also with a mirror and light it seems that the end and neck blocks are definitely larger than other germans that I have seen.....she does look quite old though.

[Ken Smith]

Originally Posted by Adrian Levi

If I decide to move it Ill be sure to let you know first

The things that stand out to me(beside the monster scroll) are the narrow F-holes as well as the lack of perfling on the back. Also the button is rather 'fat' compared to my other basses. Also with a mirror and light it seems that the end and neck blocks are definitely larger than other germans that I have seen.....she does look quite old though.

I don't think this is German at all. Prague is among the possibilities beside Vienna and Budapest/Pest.

[Adrian Levi]

Originally Posted by Ken Smith

I don't think this is German at all. Prague is among the possibilities beside Vienna and Budapest/Pest.

Ken - do you have any idea when and where this scroll design originated from?
I cant decide if ugly or not ... looks kind of medieval weapon like ...

[Ken Smith]

Originally Posted by Adrian Levi

Ken - do you have any idea when and where this scroll design originated from?
I cant decide if ugly or not ... looks kind of medieval weapon like ...

Viol d'Gambas? .. All over Europe from Italy thru Germany and spread east and west. I think the earliest I have seen these is the 16th century Viols, maybe earlier.

[Adrian Levi]

I've just noticed that this neck on this bass is sitting directly on the neck block and not supported by the rib sides at all it seems . The neck block face is flush with the rib ends / I'm just interested to know if any particular school subscribed to this way of building ?

[Ken Smith]

Originally Posted by Adrian Levi

I've just noticed that this neck on this bass is sitting directly on the neck block and not supported by the rib sides at all it seems . The neck block face is flush with the rib ends / I'm just interested to know if any particular school subscribed to this way of building ?

When or IF the Top comes off, you will see it is a dovetail joint in the neck block. The neck can't just SIT on top. It has to be supported. I have seen this on German Basses as a style but is also the old Gamba construction before the neck/block mortise became the standard.

Can you show some pictures of the sides/ribs? By the neck area and full shots as well, both sides and as many pics as you can post.

[Eric Hochberg]

Can you see a clue of the dovetail in the overstand?. I can on my older bass. It appears that filler blocks were added to hide it, or it might have been converted from dovetail.

[Adrian Levi]

Originally Posted by Ken Smith

When or IF the Top comes off, you will see it is a dovetail joint in the neck block. The neck can't just SIT on top. It has to be supported. I have seen this on German Basses as a style but is also the old Gamba construction before the neck/block mortise became the standard.

Can you show some pictures of the sides/ribs? By the neck area and full shots as well, both sides and as many pics as you can post.

A dovetail joint never occurred to me . Here are some pics I have on my mac.