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Hi Arnold so you prefer ¼”x20 Aluminum Adjusters…? Can you tell us why they work best for you? My first idea would be, “that the most efficient way to transfer vibrations from the top of the bridge to the bridge foots is not actually use the same material (Maple)” and that won’t change that much the sound of the bass… but that’s not it… I wonder why? |
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Think he was talking about Chuck...... Peace and love... |
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Does anyone know when this study was conducted? It stated that most folks from the U.S. had adjusters and most folks from Europe didn't. I wonder if this still holds true today.
At any rate, an interesting thread. I guess what fascinates me is how most people seem to have a strong opinion about adjusters. Its like the carrot cake of the bass world. You love it or you hate it. |
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Wayne, read my last post over. Concentrate on the context. And don't worry, urine is sterile, won't hurt you a bit... |
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No disrespect Wayne, but if I were to have a real objection to adjusters (which I don't...) it would be in line with what I think you're saying.
It seems to me like any concern for tone aside, adjusters are used more often as a crutch to skirt the issue of less than optimal setup, and to some extent technique, rather than seasonal climate change. If the instrument is properly set up, then low "action" should be possible without buzzes, and higher strings still an option for the player who prefers it. The player shouldn't have to use the adjusters to constantly ride a line between fingerboard noise and uncomfortable/difficult playing; he should be able to use them to suit the string height to his technical ability and playing style. |
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This is a little aside the original topic, but considering the topic, heheh... I'm curious - for the players who do experience a lot of seasonal change and use an adjustable bridge to compensate, how much overall height adjustment would you say you're using over the course of the year? Are you using a significant amount of the range of your adjusters? And also, do you change soundposts or just try to keep a "happy medium" fitted year-round? |
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I have experienced within the same day or week going from one place to another feeling the strings higher or lower due to humidity/temperature changes. A slight turn of each adjuster, maybe evenly and maybe not, gave me the set-up I needed for that job. Next, one day I might be doing a jazz gig. For Trip/Duo/Combo work with bass solos, I need lower action. For Big band or Singer/Show type back-up work, I want the strings higher. For Classical Orchestra, I usually go as high as it is comfortable. If I have a solo or for chamber music, I might go a little lower. All of these situations can happen within a given week or month for a full time professional freelance bassist. I was one of them in NY. My main bass then was an old Italian Flatback, now used in a Finnish Orchestra with a Rogeri label. With some Roundbacks, I see move movement because the Back is not braced and more free to shift. Flatbacks shift too but the braces attempt to hold it stable. In the case of the bass changing between seasons they both move. So, if you want your bass the way you want it day in and day out, use good adjusters and I have several kinds within my basses. Some turn easier and some not so easy. I am more concerned with that than what or how they effect the sound. I need the height I need. I can play louder or softer at a greater degree than any adjuster can affect a Bass's tone in my opinion. Now as far as the Soundpost goes (aka SP), Roundbacks(RB) in 4-season areas experience more variation than Flatbacks(FB). Over time, the SP on a RB needs more attention than that of a FB. If fitted in the summer or spring, either Back type, it might need to be shaved down a mm or so in the winter. If you can while you are having your RB bass restored, put some kind of center brace in there. This will help save your Back over time from splits in case of drastic changes or hard knocks. I demand this with most of my basses whenever possible. They even sound better afterwards and I think the move less afterwards. Somewhat between a FB and a regular RB. So, a RB with a center brace is a bit of a hybrid. Just have the tightness of the Post checked in the early winter or if you suspect its too tight which you might hear in the change of the sound. Read all audible signs as something to look at and take nothing for granted with these BIG Violins! One last thing about adjusters in my reference above to playing various styles from day to day. Imagine your Bass having a fixed Endpin. Some days you sit, some days you stand. Sometimes you stand straight and sometimes you slouch. Some music you want the bass higher and some lower. An adjustable endpin fixes that problem in the same way bridge adjusted do your string height. I have a few fixed endpins but I also carry the adjustable rod with me as well. Flexibility is important. |
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I agree with Ken - it is important for the working bassist to remain flexible, yet keep his adjustable rod close at hand.
Hey Wayne - what was the guy's name - I'm sure you know who I mean - that left the violin wood in some public toilet with a sign asking people to (why am I typing this.......) on it... |
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