What kind of amp do you guys play out of?

[Tim Bishop]

Well, when it comes to bass, you can NEVER have enough headroom!

I currently use my Eden WT-550 as a DI (no cab; don't need it; will explain later). IMO, this gives the Sound-man all he needs for bass (post EQ) and with us being on Avioms and fitted in-ears, keeps the stage volume controlled.

I never thought I would be able to break away from my on-stage rig, however, with a little work, I have grown to adapt to the in-ears and the convenience you get with Avioms: I love mixing what I want to hear in my ear and not having to fight to get the attention of the Sound-man to attend to what I need in the mix. More importantly, I love not having to carry all that weight with the "big rig".

Now, don't get me wrong, where the convenience of Avioms, great sound system, a Sound-man with an ear, etc. are not available, my newest favorite rig is my QSC PLX3602 w/Alembic F2-B Pre-amp and whatever Eden Cabs I choose for the venue.

The PLX3602 bridged into 4 ohms has an output of 3600W . While I may never use all that power, I will have all the headroom I'll ever need and oh my, by far my favorite rig set-up!!! I've yet to hear anything that compares!

I've played through many rigs and I still love my Eden rigs (among others), however, "can't touch this"!

[Albert Smith]

Thank You Tim, most informative!!!!!

[Chris Holsopple]

I tried alot of different stuff early on, but ended up with SWR cabs in the early 90's with Crest power and an Ampeg SVT Pro preamp. However, I had driver issues with the SWR cabs.
So in '95 I went to Rockvale Music in MD and walked outta there with 2 Eden 118XL's, a 410XLT and a D210 (later replaced with a 210XLT) and a Navigator preamp was added 2 years later. I've never looked back....

I have never had an issue with the Eden cabs until recently. Both 10's in the 210XLT are creased where the cone joins the surrounds- over excurtion. Says alot for the voice coils- the cones are tearing themselves apart, but there is no voice coil rub. They are starting to sound a bit funky.... not in a good way kinda funky, either. Time for reconing. It's by no fault of the speakers, tho. I've pounded the livin' daylights out of these cabs and they just keep coming back for more. I know they're not for everyone, but I love the sound.
Last year I got rid of the heavy Crest and went to a QSC PLX2402. Not bad at all, but I don't believe it has quite the oomph down below of the Crest. Especially when I drop the low 'B' to 'G#'

Chris

[Darren Lipper]

I have an Epifani 502UL head, and an Epifani 1x12UL and Epifani 1x10UL cabinet set up...

A very light weight, mass transportation-friendly set up lol!

Epifani stuff seems to allow the Smith tone (or any bass for that matter) shine...

[Martin Duarte]

Hi,

I'm coming to the States on Monday and getting a new bass amp. I have a couple of options.

www.schroedercabinets.com (I get a discount there)

Suggest any more cabs please, if you can.

I was looking at
www.genzbenz.com GBE1200

or at www.ashdownmusic.com.uk Mark King, or some of the other options.
What heads do you suggest?

Thanks to everyone in advance,

Martin

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Martin Duarte

Hi,

I'm coming to the States on Monday and getting a new bass amp. I have a couple of options.

www.schroedercabinets.com (I get a discount there)

Suggest any more cabs please, if you can.

I was looking at
www.genzbenz.com GBE1200

or at www.ashdownmusic.com.uk Mark King, or some of the other options.
What heads do you suggest?

Thanks to everyone in advance,

Martin

Martin, review and see posts #23 and #29 (among others of mine) of this thread.

[Tim Bishop]

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

Amp's/Cab's used:

QSC PLX 3602 w/Alembic F2B Pre-amp

Eden Amp's: WT800, WT550, WT400
Eden Cab's: 210XST, 410XLT, and 115XLT

Ampeg Amp: SVT III Pro
Ampeg Cag: 610HLF

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

Well, when it comes to bass, you can NEVER have enough headroom!

At church I currently use my Eden WT-550 as a DI (no cab; don't need it; will explain later). IMO, this gives the Sound-man all he needs for bass (post EQ) and with us being on Avioms, keeps the stage volume controlled.

We are all on Avioms and in-ears. Our Worship Leader, Drummer, and myself went to an audiologist and had ear molds made for custom fitted in-ears made by Ultimate Ears. Everyone else uses Shure E5's.

I never thought I would be able to break away from my on-stage rig, however, with a little work, I have grown to adapt to the in-ears and the convenience you get with Avioms: I love mixing what I want to hear in my ear and not having to fight to get the attention of the Sound-man to attend to my needs. More importantly, I love not having to carry all that weight with the "big rig".

Now don't get me wrong, where the convenience of Avioms, great sound system, a Sound-man with an ear, etc. are not available, my newest favorite rig is my QCS PLX3602 w/Alembic F2-B Pre-amp and whatever Eden Cabs I choose for the room.

The PLX3602 bridged into 4OHMS has an output of 3600W. While I may never use all that power, I will have all the headroom I will need and oh my, by far my favorite rig set-up!!! I've yet to hear anything that sounds this great! I still love my Eden and Amped rigs, however, can't touch this!

Originally Posted by Tim Bishop

Martin, review and see posts #23 and #29 (among others of mine) of this thread.

Or, see my quotes above.

[Steve_M]

Originally Posted by Martin Duarte

Hi,

I'm coming to the States on Monday and getting a new bass amp. I have a couple of options.

www.schroedercabinets.com (I get a discount there)

Suggest any more cabs please, if you can.

I was looking at
www.genzbenz.com GBE1200

or at www.ashdownmusic.com.uk Mark King, or some of the other options.
What heads do you suggest?

Thanks to everyone in advance,

Martin

Martin, I can only speak for myself on this but I've found Smiths have an inheret 'desk friendly' upper mid scoop which I've discovered is shared by Eden and SWR amps to the point when I'm playing live the upper mids are so scooped that I can't actually hear the pitch of the note I'm playing or get a comfortable sound when I eq.

Thats what led me to sell my Eden WT800. Instead I've gone with a pure solid state set up which works wonderfully. With many other basses the set up would sound harsh but with the warm and mellow character of Smiths it works out great. Loads of power, presence and I can actually hear myself clearly. If I want to use the solid state rig with another bass, I have a prototype DHA tube compressor pedal which mellows the other basses out nicely and fattens them up.

Schroeders could work out nicely for you as cabs as they are reputed to be mid-prominent. I can't speak for Genz Benz but I've heard lots of good things said about Bergantino cabs also. Personally I would probably go for a Glockenklang set up myself, they have an outstanding reputation for clarity and build quality - they' re made in Germany also so less hassle with importing.

This post might perhaps be a little late however?

[Bill Doss]

Has anyone tried out Bag End's S15X-D cabs? I just picked one from another forum member and I am loving it! It is a 15 inch speaker with a coaxial tweeter in the middle of the speaker. I can't believe the SPL and presence that that little thing has.

[Christopher Rhodes]

Gents,

I just purchased an old SWR workingman's 10. Used. I connected an 8 ohmn extension cabinet - a bag end 4x10. Wow. Amazing what you get out of 100 watts!

The ken smith 7 string sound full and responsive - I guess it is all those 10s speakers. Sounds good to me

[Bill Doss]

Has anyone tried them out? The fact that they are so light is a real draw.

I know they have some users in the EU, but have not heard much about them in the US.

[Christopher Rhodes]

I do not own one. Yet. I am hearing really good things about them. The one thing I always here that that amp does not color the tone of the bass with the amp - the bass tends to be sonically true to it's tone color. I know of two users in Maryland - they are extremely happy with them.

I wonder what a Smith Bass would sound like - with a fresh new set of ken smith strings - with a markbass amp! Since all Smith basses have a very destinictive tone ( - I can also tell if the bass is a smith in any song - ) Would the Markbass amp - let the KS tone come through even more???

[Bill Doss]

Originally Posted by Christopher Rhodes

I do not own one. Yet. I am hearing really good things about them. The one thing I always here that that amp does not color the tone of the bass with the amp - the bass tends to be sonically true to it's tone color. I know of two users in Maryland - they are extremely happy with them.

I wonder what a Smith Bass would sound like - with a fresh new set of ken smith strings - with a markbass amp! Since all Smith basses have a very destinictive tone ( - I can also tell if the bass is a smith in any song - ) Would the Markbass amp - let the KS tone come through even more???

Christopher,

I ask myself the same questions. I too can identify a Smith on a song because of its snappy tone.

I am tempted to get one as a smaller gig/practice amp. I will post results if I do.

Bill Doss