Baliol Bass-Made in the UK - Ken's Corner (Bass Forums Sponsored By KSB)

Ken Smith · #1 07-03-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MattDenney

Ok, thanks very much Ken. I will take some good pictures when I get back from holiday. Going tomorrow for a week, so next week I will sort this out

I have typed in the makers/brand name, and there are no results on google which can help really. I know that the bass in probably worth more than £100, but comeon, school has to be good for something

I could try and get it on the cheap from school, even if it is worth a bit.

Will see, and get back to you next week.

All the best,
Matt

In the land of 100gbp Basses, the morning greeting sounds like this; 'Ne how ma'!

For a 'good day chap' greeting add 2 or 3 zeros! 'Buon giorno' gets the zeros as well.

The only thing you can get in the UK for 100gbp is a set of strings of the DB and not the most expensive ones either!!

Matthew Tucker · #2 07-04-2007, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Smith

The only thing you can get in the UK for 100gbp is a set of strings of the DB and not the most expensive ones either!!

Do you know for certain that there were never, ever any low-priced basses made in England?

Ken Smith · #3 07-04-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker

Do you know for certain that there were never, ever any low-priced basses made in England?

In what century Matt? Add up the cost of the wood and other components and even without labor it's impossible to hit anything in the 100s.

Matthew Tucker · #4 07-05-2007, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Smith

In what century Matt? Add up the cost of the wood and other components and even without labor it's impossible to hit anything in the 100s.

Hang on, what I'm trying to work out is how you are so certain that the bass that Matt asked about is Chinese, sight-unseen? The price 100GBP is the price Matt wants to offer the school, not the retail price.

You might well be right, but we don't have any pictures of it. For all we know it could be a student bass made in England 30 or 40 years ago, no?

Ken Smith · #5 07-05-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker

Hang on, what I'm trying to work out is how you are so certain that the bass that Matt asked about is Chinese, sight-unseen? The price 100GBP is the price Matt wants to offer the school, not the retail price.

You might well be right, but we don't have any pictures of it. For all we know it could be a student bass made in England 30 or 40 years ago, no?

Yes, we need to see pics to be more certain but as for value, that's where I made my opinion?

I am not aware or any English Makers making 'student Basses' in the UK. The closest I think you can come to an English Student Bass are the German Made Hawkes of about 80-100 years ago.

Finding an English Bass make made for budget is like finding an Italian Bass as well. They just didn't do low cost production Basses at all as far as the history goes that I know of. England imported from Germany and France for their low cost Basses. They did make trade instruments 150-250 years ago to compete with imports (mostly in the violins) but any Bass found today from that period being English in make would still command a fairly high price well into 5 figures.

Matthew Tucker · #6 07-07-2007, 01:01 AM

Is this like your Baliol?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....9056&rd=1&rd=1

MattDenney · #7 07-12-2007, 11:54 AM

Yes, that does look like the bass.

I am not going to go to school and say, ''look, that bass you have had for the past 20 years is actually a sort after very highly prized gem of an instrument, so I am going to offer you £25 000 for it'' or offer them hundreds. If the bass might be worth my while getting and taking to my local professional bass restorer to get completely overhauled for £1000 then I will say, ''I need a bass, can I have the schools bass if I offer you £100 or so, seen as no one plays it now and you have two'' the other being an old Boosey and Hawkes ply bass. Its just a way of getting an instrument, as school doesn't know a £30 000 bass from a £1000 bass, so I could get lucky.

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